- cross-posted to:
- ukrainianconflict@lemmit.online
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- ukrainianconflict@lemmit.online
Summary
Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered 160,000 more Russians aged 18–30 be drafted from April 1 to July 15, amid U.S.-brokered ceasefire talks.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy warned the Kremlin is preparing a major offensive in Sumy, Kharkiv, and Zaporizhzhia, accusing Russia of stalling negotiations to gain territorial leverage.
Over 100,000 Russian soldiers are confirmed dead. Ukraine reported 46,000 dead and 380,000 wounded.
Politicians never fight their wars. Conscription is slavery.
The ruling class never fights their wars, either.
Oh hey this is a shift for you. Maybe you’re all about Russian military aggression until you find out that you might need to actually get your hands dirty?
Maybe not.
Vlad should call his MAGA supporters to join his cause and it will fulfill their need for violence.
Also they would take heavy casualties. Use them as pure cannon fodder.
From what I’ve seen on the reddit right-leaning subs most of them are very against the entire war and sending money/troops at all.
How many will be oligarchs sons?
BYOB - System of a Down
My first thought was CCR - Fortunate son
We can’t make it here anymore - James McMurtry also has something to say on the subject.
i love that song
Or even any from large cities?
Russia isn’t going to have any young men left.
Might finally play against some non russian cs2 mic spammers
That’s a problem because?
Take a look around, it would seem they have plenty in America to draw from.
Rest in peace you poor bastards. Forced to fight a rich mans war… for nothing.
Yep so many will due horribly because of their awful dictator
Clearly showing what he really thinks of Trump’s bullshit “peace” plan.
The last round of conscription was meet with uncharacteristically loud pushback from the russian public so pushing ahead with even more is interesting. Is the kremlin that confident in the effect of it’s propaganda? or is it just that desperate?
The Kremlin is confident that they will kill as many protesters as will be required to destroy any uprising.
Maybe I should just Google it but… do you remember any specific cases of this pushback?
The amount of Russians leaving the country to avoid conscription was very high. You can’t really hide that. There are stories of men being kept hidden to avoid the press gangs. But all of that is probably par for the course considering the amount of soldiers dying on foreign soil.
This articles covers some interesting incidents and this wikipedia article is more exhaustive though covers the domestic anti-war events more broadly.
Ehh sorry. I assumed/hoped you were talking about something more, that I wasn’t aware of. I know of these protests, but they were not nearly intense enough to disrupt the system. Much of the urban youth that might have led the protests has left the country in the meantime too, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the next round of recruitment is met with even weaker resistance…
There were protests and hundred of thousands of young Russian men left the country after Putin announced the first “partial” mobilisation. The recruitment process was also botched and conscripted even the disabled and old.
The pushback was for the mobilisation, while this is a start of a routine conscription event, these happen twice every year
effect of its* propaganda
Both sides have resorted impressment to refill their ranks, regardless of public pushback men can still get bagged into a van on the street and sent to the front lines.
Are they going to be equipped like the Russian soldiers in late WWII? One soldier gets a rifle, the other gets five bullets, and both get helmets the thickness of tin cans.
Russian soldiers in late WW2 were typically very well equipped, as were most soldiers by that stage in the war (even German soldiers were pretty decently equipped late war, though mostly due to having almost no soldiers left to equip).
Late summer 1941 and even at points during Stalingrad, sure there were definitely times when soviet soldiers were being thrown into battle massively underequipped, but this was the exception rather than the rule.
By 1944 (even by 1943) the Red Army was more mechanised than the Wehrmacht and was better at Blitzkrieg than the Wehr ever were.
Lend lease really helped with mechanization. The jeeps and trucks they had were indispensable for the war effort. We often talk about guns and bombs, but people don’t realize how important transportation and heavy machinery is.
“Infantry wins battles, logistics wins wars.”
Without logistics the infantry cannot win anything.
That is ww1. Not world war 2. The whole ‘wait for your comrade to die and take his weapons’ did not happen during ww2. It did happen in ww1.
more fertilizer for the ukrainian soil
I can hear this image.
Conscript reporting.
Oh, look. Russian “brain drain” heading to Russias southern borders.
More like blood drain, their brains are probably in atrophy.
Most of the brains already left for other countries
Generational alcohol abuse will do that.
As we all know, repeatedly drafting several divisions worth of men is a sign you’re winning the war…
Territorially? Yes, Russia is winning. But politically, economically and socially? Russia already lost. The deaths of thousands of soldiers in the face of Russia’s demographic crisis will result fewer labour force, which means lower tax revenue. The Russian economy is in war footing and this is already causing inflation because of heightened government expenditure, and businesses struggling to pay the ever increasing wage demands of civilians at home, who replaced the jobs that would have been filled instead by soldiers from the front. With secondary sanctions, even Chinese banks are reluctant to lend to Russia. The future generations of Russians will be paying for the economic and social consequences of the war in Ukraine. In essence, Russia may be winning territorially, but it will be a Pyrrhic victory with generational consequences.
They still only have 20 percent of the country. After years. At this rate they will run out of people before Ukraine runs out of territory.
You are right and coming out of that war footing when all the bill are due? Diaster
And it’s 1 2 3 what are we fighting for don’t ask me I don’t give a damn next stop is Zaporizhzhia
That’s a lot of meat for the grinder
Love this for the Russians. Maybe they’ll wake up and take this boot off their necks one day
So, approximately 90 days worth of casualties.