Yeah thats how it was here after the reddit fiasco.

I dont dissagree. But for the rest of yall here, the point stands.

Foreign policy is nuanced, multi layered, and gives no shits about your morality. Any of you that boil down the issue to palistine vs israel or race or religion, have no idea whats going on. Two state solutions are just to placate you while wholesale slaughter happens.

This is about power and maintaining it. Always has been. And american, or western dominance in the region as a way to maintain what little peace exists, and not let our adversaries seize that control, is the end sum game.

Im not saying its right. But superpowers and governments do not care about your moral hangups. A hundred thousand dead “someone else” vs a major strategic location means nothing. Appalling, sure, but there is a brutal logic to it.

🥲 its beautiful

Ok. Let me try again.

What would you do if you were bernie? Whats your course of action?

Do you know what an independant is? Who would you prefer he caucus with? The gop?

Bernie sanders is the longest serving independant senator in united states history. Hes been criticizing the democratic party since the 1970s, you absolute muppet.

Thats the thing everyone forgets. He never planned on winning. He didnt want to win. Go watch him right after they announced victory. The man was lost. The plan was always do the show circuit and play victim and rake in the money without any responsibility for his shitty actions.

He didnt want it either, but all that is left is toperpetually double down. And here we are…

So nuanced. So brave.

In texas, if you get busted with pot brownies, the entire weight of the pan is the “weight” of the drugs. Normally its makes it an instant felony. I imagine this is one of those situations, just to an extreem level.

Ave Maria is “classical music” for people that cant pronounce Tchaikovsky. Pavarotti has a great rendition, but hell, Celine Dion did one too. Its not that special.

Franz Schubert just set an excerpt of a Sir Walter Scott poem to music for christs sake! Why does it exist on such a pedestal?

All im saying is that ave maria is like trump. It holds a position of esteem for people that know nothing about art or success or value. It is the golden toilet set inside a cookie cutter McMansion in the middle of Frisco Texas.

Sure, you can impress your neighbors with it, but the bank is reposessing that house and toilet along with your new wake boat next week too. Who are you really impressing?

I agree, but that wasnt my question. Well, i guess it was accidentally vague. I can see how you misunderstood my prompt.

My question is in regards to what direction the voting public trend if that happens. Martyr boost propelling vance up, or fizzle bust?

Well thats why i ask. You can say lucky us, but at this point in the election, im not so sure.

Between the vitriol and retoric and conspiracy theories weve already seen, the implication of violence and absolute craziness would, without question be enough for me to not hope for anything like that.

But im asking about how the voting public would poll. Would vance get a martyr boost from their dear dead leader, or would an immediately apathetic undecided vote rise up, one that was origionally locked into the trump/vamce ticket. Would it just vanish overnight? I doubt it, but vance remains an amazingly unpopular vp pick. Without trump, where is his ceiling?

I just saw a photo from last nights town hall. The man looks like he wont make it to november 5th.

Sincere question: Have any of the experts run numbers on what happens to the vance ticket if trump takes a worm nap before nov 5th?

Lol at all the people deleting their comments or getting downvoted heavily. You are the target audience. This is either a warning to get your shit straight or nuke your hard drive. Dealers choice… Take a hint boys.

What are you talking about? What is “that”?

Putin, being a clever person, used his own swab for the test.

The qtip was not the revolutionary part of the covid test.

the cotton on the end of a stick is not the most important part of a covid test.

You could… use a different swab.

You normally dont have to wait long when thats the case.

Dude, its called context. The usage implied was very clear.

And my bad, i guess i left out the little “1” at the start that says my definition was the primary usage to support my argument, but whatever… it seemed obvious.

Despite that, even by your narrower definition, trump still has charisma. just not the kind that works on you. People can be likable and have a magnetic personality and whatever else, and you can still despise them. They would still be called charismatic. The people waving his signs, attending his rallys, and wearing his red hats would certainly say he is likable and has a magnetic personality. Are they wrong? No. The sheer number of his followers prove he has charisma. Clap yourself on the back for not falling for that particular style of charisma if you want, but dont deny it exists.

charisma /kə-rĭz′mə/ noun A rare personal quality attributed to leaders who arouse fervent popular devotion and enthusiasm.

Trump absolutely has charisma. Outside of being a lying narcissist, its literally his defining trait.

And vance, in comparison to trump, is much more personable. That was on display. Vance is still a weasely amoral couch fucker, but if i was absolutely forced to be in a room with one or the other, i would pick vance over trump every time.