Countries ranked in descending order by number of school shootings from 2009-2018:
- United States: 288
- Mexico: 8
- South Africa: 6
- Afghanistan: 3
- Brazil, Canada, France: 2
- Azerbaijan, China, Estonia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Kenya, Russia, Turkey: 1
One of these is not like the others. This isn’t exactly a fact of life in other parts of the world.
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Those numbers aren’t right.
First, the total-gun-death numbers are not population-adjusted and therefore useless without additional context. The same article does have the population-adjusted numbers and the USA is, predictably, not in the top ten.
Second, once the numbers are adjusted for population, there are some very strange results. For example, apparently Iraq actually has slightly fewer gun deaths per capita than the USA. Nigeria, the country where Boko Haram is based, has four times fewer gun deaths per capita than the USA?! Clearly the gun-death numbers correspond more to how well records are kept in a country than they do to the actual numbers of gun deaths.
Oh, and those gun death numbers include suicides, not just murders. Most gun deaths in the USA are suicides. A suicide is technically a gun death, but not usually the sort that people have in mind when discussing a school shooting.
everything you said is true. i just wanted to add something to the suicide point: owning a gun has been tied with an increased risk of suicide. source
here’s a quote from the link that i think gives a good summary of the problem:
“Suicide attempts are often impulsive acts, driven by transient life crises,” the authors write. “Most attempts are not fatal, and most people who attempt suicide do not go on to die in a future suicide. Whether a suicide attempt is fatal depends heavily on the lethality of the method used — and firearms are extremely lethal. These facts focus attention on firearm access as a risk factor for suicide especially in the United States, which has a higher prevalence of civilian-owned firearms than any other country and one of the highest rates of suicide by firearm.”
That said, where there’s a will, there is indeed a way. Japan for example has abysmal suicide rates, they have a huge shame culture and it’s culturally (more) accepted with the seppuku and the suicide forests and all, and they also have virtually 0 gun ownership. Suicide is still very easy without a gun, and a gun is not even the most effective method statistically (though I hesitate to say what is because it’s literally accessible to most of the world’s population within a 10-20min walk at all times. Don’t do it, seek help, keep fighting.)
And again the old and stupid claim from the gun nuts: suicides by firearms are no firearm related deaths…
Per capita?
Population of the US: 330m
Brazil: 200m
South Africa: 62m
Afghanistan: 40m
Mexico: 100m
Still not looking so great.
Per gun? Guns are people too, right?
That sounds like a lot more work than just typing a country into DDG and checking the Wikipedia entry.
That’s all just shooting, right, not generally a violence situation in a school?
“‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens”
- Force unwanted children into this world
- Give no childcare support
- Send them to underfunded schools
- Offer no mental healthcare programs
- Make guns readily available
- “Facts of life”
I believe the assumption is this only applies to brown children. H’wite childrens obviously go to private school and have top tier medical care.
I don’t have any stats on this, but when I think of a school shooter, I think of a white kid.
Maybe that’s why there’s so much tolerance for them. Boys will be boys.
The victims come in all shapes, sizes, and colours though.
this only applies to brown children
No. It applies to poor children. While it’s true that poor children are more likely to be Brown, but it’s really the poor that’s the factor in this case.
U right
In the US…yes. Those are facts of life.
Trump gets shot at and the country says there is no room for political violence, we wish him well. Children get shot every single day, that’s just a matter of life, child-sized coffin sales sky-rocket.
But really, why aren’t more politicians being shot? I think if they were the targets instead of innocent children, gun reform would be both swift and severe.
Now, I’m not saying that political violence is acceptable, but I’m certainly not not saying it.
Becauss the people who go out and try to solve their problems with violence on a scale that would give us that pattern are the republican base. There are plenty of examples outside of that group, obviously, but even the guy who tried to shoot Trump had been a republican until very shortly before the attempt.
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The state of everything is so fucked for my brain to even go this direction… But your comment made me think the following:
Well, in their (the conservative’s) heads, yes. A dead kid isn’t one that will grow up and eventually vote against them and their hateful ideologies after being around the same things that conservatives demonize.
Edit: Not implying that conservatives want children dead. (That is clearly not the case given their stance on contraception and women’s reproductive rights.) But, that they don’t care about kids dying to gun’s, because “MUh 2nD amendmEnT RigHTS shAn’t be INFRIngeD uPoN”, and that they view children that have attended these drag events as having been indoctrinated and mentally harmed/abused. That scares them more.
Comedian Geoffrey Asmus said something like, “I don’t understand why Republicans are anti-abortion. Isn’t abortion just dead liberals?”
Notice how Vance and the other right-wing pricks don’t apply the same reasoning to abortion. Nope, in THAT case they can come up with law after law after law to address the issue. When it comes to the lives of children already here? Pfffttt… perish the thought and the child.
Yeah, in the United States. Not in other western countries. Wonder why, JD? Maybe because it’s a “fact of life” that’s created and sustained by people like you…
Conservatism is a deadly cancer that needs to be eradicated to save humanity. There is no place in a modern culture for toxic, hate-based ideologies like conservatism. That’s just a fact of life.
JD Vance is a couch fucking sociopath.
School shootings (and JD Vance) are symptoms of a diseased society.
No, no it isn’t.
-residents of like 98% of the rest of the world
A fact of American life because of idiotic gun policy.
Just as natural as love between a man and a couch.
… in America. Fixed that for you
Ok, so logically GOP presidential candidate shooting are also. Thoughts & prayers & get over it and all that.
They might end up regretting all that gun support.
Funnily enough, this how he conveyed that message:
Quick and dirty:
I see some room in the back. 🤷♂️
imagine signing up for a career where your job is to take bullets for fucking couchfucker
They don’t provide the same level of protection to the school children.
