I’m not trolling, I read the article and a few things stood out.
This guy has two kids, I have 3 at similar ages, he has a family that loved him. The article states he had some mental health issues, but doesn’t go into how severe (I assume low level, otherwise it would have stated it). It says that he was unarmed, you know what American gun culture fucks up to many things for you, this shouldn’t even be a point of note.
The least interesting thing about a murder victim should be their race. Would it make any difference if he was Chinese, Indian or Samoan? A man was killed, his kids will miss him, is family will morn him.
As for
You know exactly why it matters.
I have an idea why you think it matters, I know why I think it doesn’t. If this was a race based killing, that can be taken into account at sentencing.
I have an idea why you think it matters, I know why I think it doesn’t. If this was a race based killing, that can be taken into account at sentencing.
There’s a pattern of disproportionate use of force against black folks by police in the US. I’m not going to argue with you about that fact. You either know it’s true, or will not be swayed by any evidence I present anyhow. And when police kill someone who may be yet another example of this, it matters and is worth including.
how exactly is it racist, to be concerned with the fact that a murder occurred.
Is that actually what you think the disagreement is about? Be honest now, is this really what you think you’re being criticized for? Being concerned about murder?
You dismissed the relevance that a white security guard killed an unarmed black suspect, in an era where armed white men regularly killed unarmed black men with impunity.
I don’t find murder a political issue. Why do you think murder is political?
This is a weird response. I never said anything was “political”, I said that your rigid insistence on colorblindness in the case of a white armed security guard restraining and killing an unarmed black man is inherently racist because you seek to invalidate any claim of racial bias despite plenty of evidence that these situations are heavily influenced by racial bias.
You’re asking people to look the other way at an event that is being compared to the murder of George Floyd.
If anything, you seem conspicuously unconcerned about the nature of this murder.
If you think that Black lives are inherently “political”, I am happy to reiterate my assessment that you are a racist person.
If this was a race based killing, that can be taken into account at sentencing.
Oh so you think that racism should be an aggravating factor in sentencing? That sounds like it would be inconsistent with your other statements here. I would expect something like “why is there a lesser punishment for killing a white person you hate than killing a black person you hate?”
“White folks don’t get in disturbances in Milwaukee?” Sharpton said during the funeral. “Do y’all throw white folks to the ground and put your knee on their neck? The sentence for disturbance is death?”
Probably because it might have been a hate crime and might have done it for hate reasons, and maybe they will do it again unless they are held accountable. That would be my guess.
Cops keep murdering people, the same people too, the same evil fucks killing under the same pretenses. There’s a fucking tendency to kill certain people, wake up
Black Americans are 3.23 times more likely than white Americans to be killed by police, according to a new study by researchers from Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. The researchers examined 5,494 police-related deaths in the U.S. between 2013 and 2017. Rates of deadly police encounters were higher in the West and South than in the Midwest and Northeast, according to the study. Racial disparities in killings by police varied widely across the country, with some metropolitan areas showing very high differences between treatment by race. Black Chicagoans, for example, were found to be over 650% more likely to be killed by police than white Chicagoans.
So humans often study patterns in human behavior in order to gain insight into things like group dynamics, sometimes even as a profession. Crazy right?
And others try to use that data to try and correct historical injustices and atrocities we’ve made against marginalized people. That, I know for sure, is crazy to you.
I’m sure you think this is all just “virtue signalling,” which says a lot about you.
Why does it matter that the guy was black?
How about something like:
You know exactly why it matters. Go troll somewhere else.
I’m not trolling, I read the article and a few things stood out.
This guy has two kids, I have 3 at similar ages, he has a family that loved him. The article states he had some mental health issues, but doesn’t go into how severe (I assume low level, otherwise it would have stated it). It says that he was unarmed, you know what American gun culture fucks up to many things for you, this shouldn’t even be a point of note.
The least interesting thing about a murder victim should be their race. Would it make any difference if he was Chinese, Indian or Samoan? A man was killed, his kids will miss him, is family will morn him.
As for
I have an idea why you think it matters, I know why I think it doesn’t. If this was a race based killing, that can be taken into account at sentencing.
There’s a pattern of disproportionate use of force against black folks by police in the US. I’m not going to argue with you about that fact. You either know it’s true, or will not be swayed by any evidence I present anyhow. And when police kill someone who may be yet another example of this, it matters and is worth including.
Oh, so you’re unpolitically racist. That’s worse, but okay.
Quit making shit up man, it doesn’t help
I know I shouldn’t engage.
But how exactly is it racist, to be concerned with the fact that a murder occurred. I don’t find murder a political issue.
Why do you think murder is political?
Is that actually what you think the disagreement is about? Be honest now, is this really what you think you’re being criticized for? Being concerned about murder?
You dismissed the relevance that a white security guard killed an unarmed black suspect, in an era where armed white men regularly killed unarmed black men with impunity.
This is a weird response. I never said anything was “political”, I said that your rigid insistence on colorblindness in the case of a white armed security guard restraining and killing an unarmed black man is inherently racist because you seek to invalidate any claim of racial bias despite plenty of evidence that these situations are heavily influenced by racial bias.
You’re asking people to look the other way at an event that is being compared to the murder of George Floyd.
If anything, you seem conspicuously unconcerned about the nature of this murder.
If you think that Black lives are inherently “political”, I am happy to reiterate my assessment that you are a racist person.
You’re so bad at this. Just say it with your full chest, my dude. We all know it already, and I’m sure the people in your real life know it.
Racists are always the biggest fucking pussies about honestly expressing their own world view and ideology.
Why do you think racial injustice is about politics not basic human rights and decency?
damn you 1950s racist
Oh so you think that racism should be an aggravating factor in sentencing? That sounds like it would be inconsistent with your other statements here. I would expect something like “why is there a lesser punishment for killing a white person you hate than killing a black person you hate?”
This is the reason.
Probably because it might have been a hate crime and might have done it for hate reasons, and maybe they will do it again unless they are held accountable. That would be my guess.
Shouldn’t they be held accountable for killing a human?
I thought murder was bad, as a general rule.
Murder once is bad, yeah, of course. You know what’s worse than one murder? Multiple murders, because the person wasn’t stopped.
Agreed.
Have the two men in this instance killed before? I didn’t get that from the article.
Cops keep murdering people, the same people too, the same evil fucks killing under the same pretenses. There’s a fucking tendency to kill certain people, wake up
And none of that is a function of race.
Murder is wrong. Murderers should be stopped.
Because police encounters with black people has been an ongoing issue since they were brought over on boats to the united states.
Many studies have highlighted disparities in how black people are treated.
For instance: https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/blacks-whites-police-deaths-disparity/
Because police has a long history of treating black folk aggressively.
So humans often study patterns in human behavior in order to gain insight into things like group dynamics, sometimes even as a profession. Crazy right?
And others try to use that data to try and correct historical injustices and atrocities we’ve made against marginalized people. That, I know for sure, is crazy to you.
I’m sure you think this is all just “virtue signalling,” which says a lot about you.