• recapitated@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    This is starting to get into the “only one joke” territory.

    I assume that this stereotype is based on some volume of observation, but it’s been dragged and beaten into the ground, and honestly, as someone with decades of professional and enthusiast experience with FOSS, this stereotype just doesn’t even strike a chord with me.

    In summary, this whole meme is overcooked.

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      I think it comes from the other direction. Like, the trans and femboy communities are small, but a high portion of them are in tech jobs and FOSS. So this is a stereotype about trans women and femboys all being into Arch, rather than all Arch users being trans women or femboys.

      Still overused, but I can see why since the 3 most active communities I see on Lemmy are Linux users, trans people, and Trekkies.

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        I think you’re right about that being the origins of the joke, but the joke is distinctly trying to infer the reverse. Funny in context, but out of context, it’s just an obnoxious over-association leaking out of a community.

        It’s as stupid and culturally braindead as the old 2000s jokes where the entire punchline is the gay guy is flamboyant. haha gay rainbows! Ver funny!

        yawn

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            Do… do you think a boomer would write out “yawn” and sorta use doge speak in a message about what used to be viewed as progressive!? Or are you a literal child that doesn’t even remember the 2000’s? Either way, fucking pathetic ability to clock someone.

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              Boomer is a mentality, and “ok boomer” is a joke. No need to get so worked up lmao

              I’m just pointing out that Gen Z is much more proudly queer and especially GNC (unlike millennials whocame to age in a world where the overwhelming majority of developed countries did not even allow gays to get married!) and we not care how funny you think the joke is since it literally does not apply to you (presumably). Did it even occur to you that those “gay pride jokes” of the 2000s you deride so easily were your generation’s queer people’s way of finding acceptance and community? That “pure comedic value” (as if that was a chemical element you could distill out of memes somehow) is not the only value some people find in memes?

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                You are utterly and completely failing to understand that the joke itself is culturally bereft of meaning.

                Sad. No gay person ever felt more accepted by society from a joke that was implying gayness on a different minority. If anything, that tokenized gayness for society.

                Why do you want to be a token?

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                  This is a joke BY queers FOR queers. The goal is NOT to make cishets comfortable, or to teach them anything, or generally to cater to their feelings at all.

                  Is it so hard to understand that sometimes people want to feel seen? Why does it matter that “society” will take it badly because of tokenization or whatever the fuck? Are you even queer yourself or just projecting what you think queer people should want? Because I’m queer and I appreciate “haha non-queer thing but now queer” humor.
                  It’s not very high brow, but that’s just the nature of shitposting and I don’t go off on the tens of supposedly relatable dead horses that get beaten every day in meme communities either.

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                    I’m not knocking the sentiment you describe. I’m knocking the use of projective and tokenizing bullshittery.

                    I’m sorry you’re offended, but these jokes specifically are doing culture and acceptance no favors.

                    You can feel accepted without reducing yourself to a token.

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      It never even landed for me. I’ve NEVER met a trans person or femmy guy in tech. At least not compared to the swathes of the typical unkempt neckbeards.

      Though no one wants to make neckbeard jokes, because that one has ALSO been beaten in to the ground… over and over and over and over…

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        I thought no one wanted to make neckbeard jokes because it would summon one to “ummm ackshully” all of us.

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        As someone who works in tech, my stereotype of “average tech worker” is going to be more like a guy named Praveen (there’s two Praveens on my team right now). But tech tends to have a lot of diverse backgrounds, since tech jobs usually care more about what you can do than where you’re from or what school you went to.

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        I’ve worked with 1 known ftm and didn’t know until 4 years in. I work in a 250 person org which is fairly progressive. I wonder if it’s that easy at a lot of bigger and vc tech.

        I have worked with plenty of neck beard types, as well as more average folks. So this meme doesn’t match my experience at all.

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      Look out folks, its the meme police, come to apply logic and reason to your funny internet pictures!