Reminder: Your stick figure doodles during math class are worth more than the most gorgeous thing AI has spat out.
Apart from my other comment, this post was a response to another post in the programmer humor community
This is the AI pic
and this is a drawing made by a commenter
But again, tell just how much betttttttttttttttter AI is
Muh prompts tho /s
I’m an engineer. A prompt engineer! /s
The most gorgeous thing AI has spat out is images in a shiny/glowy artstyle that at this point everyone knows is AI, with almost-faces that give the uncanny valley vibes, and backgrouds or text that barely makes any sense because the AI has no sense of reality and allucinates shit.
I mean if you want to stick your head in the sand and lie to yourself, then sure.
Look at a few of the recent top images in !imageai@sh.itjust.works and try to tell me that many of them don’t look good. I’m sorry, but you are fucking delusional if you can’t even admit that some AI models can, in fact, make impressively good looking images.
If you want to argue the morals of AI art, then yes, let’s have that conversation. But to try and dismiss all of it by saying it doesn’t even look good is just pathetic and willfully ignorant of reality. You want so desperately to believe that AI could never create something that looks good that you have deluded yourself into ignoring the truth.
The technology is growing, and it will leave you behind.
Like, fuck, man; am I just supposed to pretend like this isn’t beautiful?
Or that this isn’t cute and funny?
Am I not allowed to look at things like this and acknowledge that it’s far better than anything I could produce without dedicating decades of my life to the pursuit of art?
Look at this
And tell me how it looks good. Not the pic itself, but the artstyle. It’s still has traces of that shiny shitty AI artstyle.
Y’all treat AI as the fucking holy grail of technology. At one point, everything will be plagued by the cheap, shitty version of the AI images, and the better models will be trained on that instead of actual art, and then these cutting-edge models will be just another shitty image generator because it got more shitty AI images than art fed into it.
The main fucking problem with AI’s quality is that most people aren’t using these high-quality models, most people are using the first thing that they find. And since the people who know about the hugh-quality one are a minority, the internet will be plagued with low-quality, soulless art.
Look at my edited reply and try to make the same argument.
The two first you linked had very notable AI artstyle (specially the second), but that last one was way better. Yet, not the models or efforts the average netizen will use to get AI images, so internet will get plagued with the bad quality ones with uncanny valleys and errors everywhere.
Lmao, try to make the same argument for anything else. “I don’t want people to paint. Most are seriously bad at it and I don’t want my feeds filled with their ugly artwork. Ive already seen that style anyways.”
You don’t even know why you don’t like it, you’re just doing what you’ve been told to do. Jfc.
AI bros when criticism:
I’ll take the most chicken-scratch attempt at a meme over a photo-realistic (though still uncanny/off putting) AI generated slop any day.
At least when I’m putting a meme together by hand, I can reach a point halfway through and realize “this is stupid” and throw it away. 😆 And if you think my OC memes suck, you should see what’s on the cutting room floor lol.
see what’s on the cutting room floor
Show it then
maybe start an /unfinishedmemes thread and have the community help finish them
I like y’all too much to subject you to the reject pile lol.
I’ll take this every single time over Ai slop being churned out by untalented hacks.
bUt MuH pRoMpTs!
God, all these people using steel knives to cut their food for cooking, they’re so lazy, it’s so bad, I hate them so much, you can just do it with your bare hands
Luddites.
AI might not be producing the best content, and it will change the nature of how humans work (or don’t), in good and (many) bad ways. But every culture which has resisted the inexorable march of technology has lost in convincing fashion.
I may not like it, but the current gen of AI is one tiny fraction of a step in a direction which cannot be stopped. Instead of fearing the machines we need to figure out how to best use them.
Reduce the natural resource consumption, and put the thinking rocks to work so humans can focus on what’s valuable and important to us. If people are freaking out that their memes aren’t drawn by hand, they’d probably be better served by not wasting their time on memes at all.
You know, it would have been a good analogy… if it wasn’t because it’s still done by a human in it.
AI is more akin to a Thermomix. Something that makes things for you when you don’t want to make them yourself. But then, you can’t really claim any credit, or claim it was made by a human.
Oh, wait. I’m gonna vibe code an app and say I made it with AI as if it was the same as doing it with an IDE instead of using notepad.
[aggressively upvotes]
Ask six people to identify the ‘soul’ in a piece of art and you’ll get seven different answers. It’s an entirely subjective concept.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as the saying goes. Maybe we should stop gatekeeping what art people enjoy and stop brigading them when they dare to like something ‘real artists’ decide they shouldn’t.
Maybe we should stop licking the boot of the tools of Capitalists explicitly designed to remove humanity from the human experience.
You should probably, and I mean this kindly, touch grass
Ah, a 2mo old account slop from Reddit? Say less.
Neither is worth while…the “effort” put in to this is so low it hardly registers, and soul it has none of. This is just as bad as AI slop, just in a different way.
This is way better than AI slop, at least a real human took the time to make it.
Human made does not equal worthwhile. not everything is worth something just because a human made it.
Anything made by AI that gives the uncanny feeling of it being mostly right, but quite not perfect.
Imo, any art made by AI is by definition worth less than a human’s art because it had no effort and no soul. It’s just given instructions to copy one of the artstyles it was trained on to make an image, and kt can’t even do it properly.
So, by my definition that AI-made is worth less than human-made, and your argument that not all human things are worth anything, AI falls into negative worth. Which makes human-made worthless still more worth than soulless, uncanny AI.
AI was supposed to do work for us so we could do the things we actually wanted to do, among which there is art. Not supposed to do the things we actually want to do, like art, so we can keep working.
Not everyone wants to do “art”, so the assumption that AI shouldn’t make that and leave it to humans is objectively wrong. Plenty of hobbies and things people love to do recreationally has no artistic value of purpose.
Use AI however you like, it can create value wherever you see fit. You don’t like it for artistic outlet which is fine, I don’t care and think this crap you made is equally meaningless.
Why not let people who are exceptional at creating ideas but terrible at putting them in to physical/visual representation use AI to aid them with skills they don’t have?
If you just prompted an AI to make your meme idea, then it’s less worthwhile than if you took the two minutes to draw it. Even if the quality is very low.
If you have a great idea but no drawing skills, why not use AI to help you get that great idea out in to the worldin great visuals? Why is your idea less worth because you needed AI to draw it? Why would the same idea be worth more if you paid a human to draw it? The idea is exactly the same
The idea is exactly the same
Correct. So what makes the difference?
There’s a hard truth known amongst people who do things:
Ideas by themselves are worthless without effort taken to communicate them. Few ideas are actually unique, and if they’re made real at all, the difference between a “good idea” or “bad idea” is in execution and no small bit of luck.
That execution lives or dies on fundamental understanding and process, but “great ideas” folks are primarily only concerned with the glorious end result and nothing in between.
If that idea is to be worth anything at all, they need to put in the work to make it real, just like anything else.
Even philosophers, whose entire field centers around ideas, need to understand how to communicate that philosophy in a way others will understand.
Have you seen storyboards for award-winning films or videogames or comics? Seemingly simple scribbles made by people who put in the work to understand the fundamental process, used to communicate to others who put in the work to understand different parts of that process. This is how these ideas are tested and refined to eventually become art.
This is why none of those “aspiring game designers” who “have no skills but great ideas” have ever become actual game developers without getting their own hands dirty and learning at least part of how games are actually made. Making worthwhile things takes action, and action takes effort.
Nothing worthwhile in life comes without some kind of effort, and failure is how we learn and improve, despite what commercial interests will loudly and repeatedly sell you.
Ai gen is tempting because it seems to remove all the personal growth and introspection and effort requirements to communicating these supposed “great ideas” for someone who’s “just too busy” to learn anymore.
But why should we care about a “great idea” that someone is only willing to put a bare minimum of effort into sharing with us? We’re busy learning and collaborating on our own work to make it into art.
Ideas without meaningful action and understanding are simply an act of mental masturbation. It’s fun, even healthy in moderation, but not worthwhile to anybody but the thinker.
We scorn Ai images as “not art” because it’s a single step away from mental masturbation.
It’s a siren’s call appealing to “ideas people” who think they can finally avoid the scary process of improving themselves or trying something new, and everyone will be cheering them on as “artists” because they patiently shuffled words around and hit “make it for me” a few hundred times.
It’s a fun tech toy at best, and so, so many bad things at worst.
If you read this far, thank you! Sorry it was a lot. I put probably half an hour or more into exercising my perspective and particular abilities to make sure I conveyed my points effectively.
I imagine you certainly wouldn’t bother if it were just GPT’d, but I put effort into this comment. Merely thinking it and having a machine spit it out would likely be of very little use, and possibly even insulting, to you.
Don’t be afraid to learn and grow if you want to express yourself. That is the joy of being human! I’d like to quote the legendary Bruce Lee here:
Do not fear failure. In great attempts it is glorious even to fail.
Have a good one.
