The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans U.S. national-security leaders included me in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen. I didn’t think it could be real. Then the bombs started falling.

By Jeffrey Goldberg

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    Is it a coincidence that the person who wrote press release announcing Mike Waltz’s nomination is called Richard Goldberg, that he worked in previous Trump’s administration and is an expert on Iran/Houti? Did Waltz add Jeffrey Goldberg totally by accident or did he simply confuse the contacts?

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    This is a government that tries to avoid accountability like the devil the holy water.

    Trump is known to have violated the Presidential Records Act of 1978 numerous times, stating statesman-ish reasons like “I don’t care”. There is no reason that this got any better. More likely has he outsourced communications to other platforms, too, if only to avoid the PRA.

    Musk thinks that whatever he does with DOGE is not subject to the FOIA in any way.

    Michael Waltz, JD Vance, Pete Hegseth, and others use Signal instead of official, secure, and archieved messaging systems. Signal deletes such chats after a certain time, leaving no records for courts, Congress, and the archives that one day will open past reasonings for historic analysis.

    So, what do they have to hide that they act like drug lords?

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    Even my work has better OPSEC on a random stupid meeting with nothing interesting. They review every attendee to make sure no one unexpected is in the chat.

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      It’s absurd, it’s some shit you’d see in the movies

      According to the lengthy Hegseth text, the first detonations in Yemen would be felt two hours hence, at 1:45 p.m. eastern time. So I waited in my car in a supermarket parking lot. If this Signal chat was real, I reasoned, Houthi targets would soon be bombed. At about 1:55, I checked X and searched Yemen. Explosions were then being heard across Sanaa, the capital city.

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    The Trump administration is so close to making the greatest post of all time on the War Thunder forums

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    It geniuely concerns me that this type of stuff doesn’t warrant a meeting or encrypted messaging.

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      Well, see, the thing is that it 100% absolutely positively no-questions-about-it does warrant a meeting and government approved, Internet-disconnected communications methods.

      The fact that Trump’s entire fucking cabinet apparently disagrees is what concerns me.

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      The messaging was encrypted, they where using Signal. The dumb fuck just “accidentally” added the reporter to the group chat 😆

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        I wonder if it was deliberate. Trump will surround himself with people like him, so they must constantly be knifing each other in the back

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          That’s so true. And to be clear I wasn’t trying to suggest that they should have been doing that. Like the messaging and the bombing. Both bad

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          Why do you say it isn’t secure? I’m not saying it should be used for what they where doing. I was just saying, it is encrypted

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            It was hacked in 2022 and 1900 accounts and their messages were leaked.

            If your serious about security you need to use anon messages.

            Signal ok for local drug dealers but for international war games I’d like something better then a app on the app store.

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      Come on bud this ain’t reddit, if you’re gonna weigh in read the article lol

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    Didn’t they try to charge Hilary Clinton for using an insecure private server?

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      This would matter if Republicans and their voters gave a shit about being hypocrites. That is not a new thing. Newt Gingrich went after Clinton for having an affair while he himself was having one for instance.

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        Newt Gingrich went after Clinton for having an affair…

        I don’t want to disagree with your main point, I just want to say that this is a misstatement of what happened with Clinton. He was being sued for sexual harassment by Paula Jones in civil court. He was impeached for lying under oath and obstruction during that investigation.

        The hinky part of it is that Kenneth Starr was originally supposed to be investigating whether the Clintons had participated in fraudulent real estate dealings. When that investigation turned up nothing, he was directed to look into Clinton’s testimony about his relationship with Lewinsky, which had nothing to do with the original investigation. It was a massive fishing expedition. At one point they had the FBI working with Lewinsky’s friend to secretly record her talking about the relationship.

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          At one point they had the FBI working with Lewinsky’s friend to secretly record her talking about the relationship.

          Depending on how much you believe David Brock - they were going to keep going until they found something. They were also happy to make up a lot of shit too - the stuff about state troopers bringing in women for Bill to sleep with, Vince Foster and the other “murders.” The entire investigation was not about justice.

          Which of course doesn’t make Bill Clinton not a lecherous shitbag and sex pest. The way the world treated and treats Lewinsky is fucked up. He probably did harass Jones, if not all of the other weird mentally ill women Alex Jones types like to trot out.

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        Gingrich was worse. His wife at the time had cancer and he served her divorce papers while in the hospital and then left her and their child pennyless.

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          It feels weird to say who was worse. Gingrich was worse to his wife for certain. Absolute monster of a husband and father. Clinton engaged in workplace sexual harassment as the president of the united states, and for some reason it took like 20 years for people to realize that lewinsky was his primary victim after spending years and years shaming her more than him.

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            Tbh I’d rather be sexually harassed in the workplace than get to the end of my life and realize that the person I had children with and wanted to grow old with didn’t give a flying fuck about me as a human being.

            Not that either is good, but most of us understand that our bosses view as as resources. And if you’re raised female, you’re definitely aware of that dynamic.

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            Instead of mocking things as Christian that clearly aren’t (which includes pretty much everything I know about religion in the USA) we should remind those people what their values, their religion stand for. That’s far more likely to get them to change for the better.

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              I get what yours saying, but being hateful is what evangelical Christianity gas evolved to become. These are their values

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        Genuinely. I had a discussion with somebody at work which boiled down to “Yeah but Trump stored the top secret documents in an unused bathroom while Hillary had emails in a private server which ended up being poorly secured so Hillary is actually the much worse security violation.”

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        Both sides are hypocrites. Remember Nancy Pelosi getting a haircut during Covid when regular people couldn’t? Or Gavin Newsom attending a birthday party during his own lockdown?

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          Let’s not both sides this shit. Yes, there are some corporate Democrats that are indeed hypocrites (I despise both Pelosi and Newsom) but Democrats have a mole hill while Republicans have a Denali sized problem with it.

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            The Biden administration has been happy aiding and abetting a genocide which caused hundreds of thousands of casualties, most of them innocent women and kids.

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              Not sure how that is an example of hypocrisy. Politician doing shitty thing does not automatically equate to hypocrisy. He also got a good amount of criticism for his actions and it possibly caused Harris to lose. Compare that with the complete lack of criticism with Trump from Republicans.

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                Are you suggesting aiding and abetting a genocide is a mole problem? I beg to differ.

                It is an example of hypocrisy when the Biden administration praises themselves as leader of the free world and promotes a rules based order only to be accomplices of genocide.

                Of course, this does not excuse what the Trump administration is doing.

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      Didn’t they tank her presidential bid on this? How she was unprofessional and unfit for office for this? And his Perfect Ukraine Call, his hacked emails, his every other lapse of OPSEC or security clearance issues… weren’t disqualifying? Or was it just what she had in her pants, same with Kamala.

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      Fascism is literally all about doing what’s best for the IN Crowd, in other words Cronyism, the very opposite of Merit.

      If your selection criteria for people supposed to manage anything is who is mates with whom, what’s their skin color, what’s their gender and what’s their sexual orientation, rather than, you know, managerial qualities, it’s only natural that they suck at managing things.

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        #1 thing they are bad at: running a government. Kinda hard to when you don’t actually believe in it. 🤷‍♀️