• LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
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        “That’s my battle flag”. And they all hang it up with a U.S. flag and somehow think they are patriotic. The Confederate flags only ever faught battles against the U.S. In fact I’m fairly certain with the rhetoric Donald Trump has used to say we should deport everyone who is anti America, it would mean anyone who flys a conferederate flag should be deported. Surely it won’t blow up in their faces in a couple years.

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    A member of the Rankin Greys, a Sons of Confederate Veterans camp based in Florence, Mississippi, announced the proclamation in on April 18.

    The SCV annually asks governors to issue the Confederate Heritage Month proclamations.

    The SCV is a neo-Confederate organization that espouses “Lost Cause” ideology, which promotes a revisionist version of history that whitewashes the Confederacy’s racist past and downplays the role of slavery in the Civil War. SCV owns and operates Beauvoir, the museum and historic home of Confederate President Jefferson Davis; the organization annually receives $100,000 from the State of Mississippi for development and maintenance.

    I hate Mississippi Nazis.

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    How long did the confederacy last again, 4 years? Really need a month to recognize a screwball government that only lasted through one presidential term’s worth of time?

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    Setting aside the massive amount of racism of the Confedercy, why are southerens so focused on the treasonous side of a civil war?

    It’s the racism isn’t it.

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      Always has been. The flag they fly wasn’t even the Confederate States flag, but a made up amalgamation resurrected in 1948 by the Dixiecrats to opposed Civil Rights. All modern bullshit about the Confederacy is rooted in some post reconstruction era racist asshole trying to bring back the Confederacy for some other racist ass motivations.

      Never trust any racist ass inbred fuckwit when they say, “Heritage not hate” because that flag is solely based on hate. So was the confederacy for that matter. Now excuse me while I got back to writing petitions to get Confederate statues replaced with statues of John Brown.

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        Even the idea that it’s your heritage… I’m sorry, I thought your heritage was being an American. It’s been nearly 250 years since the country was formed, including many of the states of the confederacy. Even the youngest state that seceded, Texas, has been in the union for 180 years. It was a part of the union for over 15 years before seceding for 4, too, almost 4 times as long. But no? It’s the 4 years that matter most? The 4 year period where the racist slavers seceded because they wanted to make sure they could continue to own humans as livestock and deny rights, freedoms and even basic human decency to people for the color of their skin or their genetic ancestry? Where they fought and died to protect THAT institution and way of life? That’s your heritage? … well, ok, then. But that sounds pretty fucking racist, doesn’t it?

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      Alabama’s gotten me so upset

      Tennessee made me lose my rest

      And everybody knows about Mississippi, goddamn

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    Why isn’t this considered treason? They fucking lost. Wtf isn’t any confederate symbolism illegal and punishable by prison time? I’d support this. Also same thing for nazi shit. Didn’t Germany make all nazi shit illegal?

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      Our leaders have a history of letting them live to stop the killing. They did the same thing after WWII. Thanks to nuclear bomb wet dreams, many of those nazi’s ended up in high positions within the govt., eventually.

      We won’t make the same mistake this time.

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        “We won’t make the same mistake this time” yet ya’ll keep doing it over and over again. Besides empty platitudes, what are you gunna do to stop it?

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      Wtf isn’t any confederate symbolism illegal and punishable by prison time? I’d support this.

      Basic rule on policymaking: don’t give yourself powers you wouldn’t want your opponents to have.

      Quoting A Man of All Seasons

      Yes, I’d give the Devil benefit of law for my own safety’s sake!

      Sacrificing basic civil liberties when they don’t suit you is a threat to everyone. Their willingness to do that is why everyone hates authoritarians. It’s cutting off your nose to spite your face.

      There are better ways to beat these shitheads.

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        Whats your view on Germany then? They have laws prohibiting nazi symbols and holocaust denial, which includes prison time. Are they authoritarian because of this?

        There are better ways to beat these shitheads.

        Do explain. It seems to me they’re winning. These are the types that support trump, and trump not only won, but he won the popular vote.

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          Do explain. It seems to me they’re winning.

          The way we have before? Maybe crack open a history book & read about the civil rights movement? Or read about the Enlightenment era development of liberal political philosophy leading to Western governments founded on individual rights, rule of law, liberal democracy, secularism defeating authoritarian & traditional governments in opposition to all of it.

          Whats your view on Germany then?

          Misguided, wrong, and slipping into trouble.

          […] In 2021 politicians tightened the rules further, worried by the spread of abuse and disinformation on social media. Courts may now punish insults against politicians especially severely, if their work is “significantly impeded”. In Mr Bendels’s case the court ruled, dubiously, that an impartial observer would not be able to tell that the image of Ms Faeser had been altered. That ensured her right to protection from defamation was given priority over his to freedom of expression.

          Prosecutors are happy to argue that defamation may impede politicians from exercising their duties. A Bavarian court has ruled that insults “beyond the absolute minimum of respect” can be punished. And more may be to come. The governing agreement between Germany’s incoming coalition partners pledges to empower a regulator to crack down on the “deliberate dissemination of false factual claims”.

          Last year police searched the flat of a pensioner who had shared an image on X calling Robert Habeck, Germany’s vice-chancellor, an “idiot”. Mr Habeck had filed a criminal complaint about the image, although the prosecutor was acting on a separate notification.

          […] Germany is not an outlier in freedom-of-expression rankings. But it is not just foreigners who are worried. In 2024 just 40% of Germans told Allensbach, a pollster, that they felt able to express themselves freely. The figure has halved since 1990 (see chart).

          In Germany, as in America and elsewhere, free-speech crusades are often regarded as the preserve of the dissident right. Mr Bendels is close to the hard-right Alternative for Germany party, which often complains that its views are unfairly suppressed. Yet left-wing activists, especially pro-Palestinians, have also fallen prey to police and prosecutors. Police in Berlin have shut down conferences and demonstrations in attempts to see off hate speech. Academics who supported pro-Palestine students have been threatened with a loss of funding. The risks to free expression do not go only in one direction.

          While the US has many flaws, its free expression policy isn’t one of them. Its policy is more coherent & faithful to those liberal philosophic foundations that limit expression more closely to the harm principle (eg, threats, imminent lawless action, defamation). It was crucial to the advances of the civil rights movement.

          Giving an authority power to decide which harmless expression we’re allowed to observe or produce is what authoritarians do. And no, offending someone isn’t harm.

          My advice is to quit lazily threatening everyone by arguing civil rights are the problem, and to use those civil rights (& civil disobedience) to organize & get shit done like the activists of before.

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    These hicks have contributed, influenced or affected so little of benefit, they need to give themselves medals when they came second on a two players race to feel they somehow matter.

    It’s so sad if it wasn’t for the fact the whole “heritage” is defending the right to own and abuse people.

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      It was four fucking years and most of that was a war that left your major cities in flames. It’s crazy that I don’t consider high school my heritage but these fuckin nitwits can’t let go of 4 years like a 150 years ago.

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        I’ve met some people that very much consider their four years in high school to define them and to be their “heritage”. Many of them then try to vicariously live through their kids in often the very same high school.

        I have a feeling the Venn diagram overlaps quite a bit…

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    Imagine celebrating something 150+ years later that lasted ~4 years, was a total failure and, at least as of right now, the biggest blemish on American History.