The problem with comparing Presidents is that you have to consider the times they were in power, and what did get done vs. what could have been done. Sorting Democrats above Republicans is the easy part, but the caveat is that they could have been so much better, but settled for better than Republicans. And of course parties over time change as well. Neither party resembles the past version in many ways.
I’m surprised you put Biden above Obama or Carter though. What major achievement did he do that gives him top level?
actually its because as you say considering the times. obama had two terms and in the first term he wasted a lot of time trying to work with republicans. as such the aca was the only thing to come out of it and he had a very nice initial setup congression wise. Biden had a very adversarial situation and managed to do quite a bit of useful thing. beyond the omundsman bill was the no surprise billing and not allowing college loan debt to rise above principle, have payback relative to means and discharged after 20 years of payments (the income driven plan). This is keep in mind the compromise action after knocking down many other more comprehensive discharging and despite a complete lack of appreciation on this platform for it from many folks. he was like a bulldog coming back and getting at least something done for all of his stuff. Getting more people overtime when miscategorized as exempt. I still give him credit for the no compete even though the courts blocked it. It at least as made it an issue. Don’t get me wrong I like obama like as far as stats. well spoken, well educated, just downright cool and a leader you could be proud to have. One that makes other countries jealous. Again though he sorta wasted the first term. I do keep in mind that biden did better because of his experience under obama though so its a bit unfair but its results that matter. Similarly carter did not get a lot in his term and unfortunately it was because he was to good for the job really.
A fair answer. Most interesting is the commonality they all share that impedes further progress. The other party. I can’t blame Obama for limited success, when the opposition adopts a “Vote No” mentality because of racism, and he hit resistance within his own party that made the wins lackluster (ACA and Lieberman).
Obama also had a 2 month window where he could get things done and that’s when he got the ACA passed. That was the only 2 month window that Democrats had the ability to move legislation through Congress and the Senate without obstruction since 2009 when Obama came in.
Anything that has to be written in a bill has to pass through both branches, so if it requires a bill, it really can’t be blamed on a president because they don’t even exist in that branch. That’s on the U.S. population for voting on a majority Dems/Pubs in the house/Senate. Biden served 0 days as president with a majority in those that could pass legislation… And people complain he got nothing done, when really somehow… He still got a decent amount of legislation through while being roadblocked every day for 4 years.
Edit: That will get me called a centrist or some shit… But really those people are just foolishly ignoring the truth of how our government is set up.
clinton had some similar stuff. kennedy was resistant to healthcare because of trump like idea that it was like his or his families thing to accomplish.
The problem with comparing Presidents is that you have to consider the times they were in power, and what did get done vs. what could have been done. Sorting Democrats above Republicans is the easy part, but the caveat is that they could have been so much better, but settled for better than Republicans. And of course parties over time change as well. Neither party resembles the past version in many ways.
I’m surprised you put Biden above Obama or Carter though. What major achievement did he do that gives him top level?
actually its because as you say considering the times. obama had two terms and in the first term he wasted a lot of time trying to work with republicans. as such the aca was the only thing to come out of it and he had a very nice initial setup congression wise. Biden had a very adversarial situation and managed to do quite a bit of useful thing. beyond the omundsman bill was the no surprise billing and not allowing college loan debt to rise above principle, have payback relative to means and discharged after 20 years of payments (the income driven plan). This is keep in mind the compromise action after knocking down many other more comprehensive discharging and despite a complete lack of appreciation on this platform for it from many folks. he was like a bulldog coming back and getting at least something done for all of his stuff. Getting more people overtime when miscategorized as exempt. I still give him credit for the no compete even though the courts blocked it. It at least as made it an issue. Don’t get me wrong I like obama like as far as stats. well spoken, well educated, just downright cool and a leader you could be proud to have. One that makes other countries jealous. Again though he sorta wasted the first term. I do keep in mind that biden did better because of his experience under obama though so its a bit unfair but its results that matter. Similarly carter did not get a lot in his term and unfortunately it was because he was to good for the job really.
A fair answer. Most interesting is the commonality they all share that impedes further progress. The other party. I can’t blame Obama for limited success, when the opposition adopts a “Vote No” mentality because of racism, and he hit resistance within his own party that made the wins lackluster (ACA and Lieberman).
Obama also had a 2 month window where he could get things done and that’s when he got the ACA passed. That was the only 2 month window that Democrats had the ability to move legislation through Congress and the Senate without obstruction since 2009 when Obama came in.
Anything that has to be written in a bill has to pass through both branches, so if it requires a bill, it really can’t be blamed on a president because they don’t even exist in that branch. That’s on the U.S. population for voting on a majority Dems/Pubs in the house/Senate. Biden served 0 days as president with a majority in those that could pass legislation… And people complain he got nothing done, when really somehow… He still got a decent amount of legislation through while being roadblocked every day for 4 years.
Edit: That will get me called a centrist or some shit… But really those people are just foolishly ignoring the truth of how our government is set up.
clinton had some similar stuff. kennedy was resistant to healthcare because of trump like idea that it was like his or his families thing to accomplish.