• pingveno@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    My understanding is this lie was used by Hamas to isolate Israel from Arab nations where much of the public was frankly horrified by the brutal violence Hamas had aimed specifically at civilians. So no, it wasn’t just “the one relatively inconsequential thing,” it is a lie that has had serious consequences.

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      11 months ago

      It’s also a large part of why people believe everything Hamas says (e.g. death tolls) while also refusing to believe anything Israel says.

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        11 months ago

        The reason people believe Gazan death tolls is that they’re found to be reliable by almost every organization working in the region. And the reason most people refuse to believe what Israel says without confirmation is because they’ve been caught lying on multiple occasions, many times going as far as fabricating evidence (remember the Al-Shifa calendar)?

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          11 months ago

          They’re “found reliable”, but not actually checked. Like, nobody actually checks Hamas’ numbers; they just “confirm” them.

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      11 months ago

      Considering the fact that Israel is now bombing and invading every hospital, what difference does it make?

      If this was a lie then it was only a lie by a few weeks. Israel has fulfilled every accusation that Hamas has made.

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          11 months ago

          The truth matters for the historical record, but it wasn’t a lie like the other poster said; it was at worst a false conclusion. Instead of treating this like a reasonable mistake, though, they’re cooking up conspiracy theories to assign malicious intent to what is pretty clearly just a result of the fog of war.

          If it was a mistake. I’m reserving judgement until there’s an actual forensic investigation and a truth-and-reconcilliation commission for Israel’s crimes.

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              11 months ago

              People do not need excuses to accuse something of being fake news. Also, there really weren’t a lot of reporters that actually reported this as an Israeli airstrike - they mostly just reported about the claims that were being made of an Israeli airstrike, but tried to stay neutral.

              Though yes, some jumped to conclusions. Reasonable conclusions in my opinion, but that’s bad reporting.

              But if truth matters, then we shouldn’t react to bad reporting with wild and speculative claims about people lying to make Israel look bad.