I mean… I don’t WANT these asshats feeling welcomed to our side just like I don’t want a billionaire talking at the DNC, and I don’t want a Republican getting speaking time while others with much more important less ethically reprehensible things to say aren’t allowed even 3 minutes on stage.
I want us to win despite these people, with folks like Lena Khan getting more props. I don’t want the endorsement of these rats jumping from the sinking R ship to the D ship because they smell some cheddar they might can come nibble on.
Your concerns are valid but all the Rs coming out like this is more about how terrible Trump is and less about anything else. Don’t underestimate how many moderates there are in both parties and these Rs help there - progressives need their votes. After Trump is gone, we can hopefully go back to trying to improve the voting system, pushing Dems more left and hope that anyone on the right exchanges some of their selfinterests for social interests - but that’s best we can dream for.
I know we need to partner with everyone who will join us at the ballot… I just do NOT want the policies being reshaped in order to “better attract” the right-wingers - whose gutting of our already laughable social safety net was a key aspect that made so many increasingly desperate Americans far more vulnerable to demagoguery like that which is constantly espoused by figures like Trump.
The real solution is clearly laid out as history has multiple examples to show.
When people can’t meet their base socioeconomic needs, they are more vulnerable to this shit. So raise the baseline standards such that everyone who isn’t a billionaire is far better off - no medical debt, no student debt, affordable rent and housing, job and financial stability, and being able to afford to have a family.
Do NOT do cuts to our already barely-existing social and economic safety nets.
When the Dems have an unbreakable, veto proof majority in Congress and the Senate, and the White House
Create an unbreakable veto-proof majority of Romney Staffers and you’re going to end up with an unbreakable veto-proof policy written by Romney Staffers.
She’s hostile to immigration. She’s friendly with corporate finance and the California tech sector. She threw away her platforms on universal health care, higher minimum wage, and educational debt forgiveness to get the VP slot. She’s a zealous supporter of the MIC and has yet to find a war she doesn’t like. Her brother-in-law is a chief executive at Uber, ffs.
Why would she need to take a step backwards to meet Mitt Romney? They’re joined at the hip.
Something like 2% of the population thinks that Gaza is a big problem for America.
Not actually true. You’ll see a 3-5% swing in the polls based on how closely Republicans and Democrats are aligned on supporting the Israeli genocide.
Stop acting like you’re living in a country on the verge of a Socialist revolution.
When you listen to Trump talk, a big part of his platform is appealing to the (whites only) democratic socialism common to the 50s and 60s. When Kamala panders to her base, she talks about cutting the private cost of health care and education. I’m not sure where you got the idea of a pending Socialist Revolution. But socialist policy is consistently appealing across large majorities of the American voting base.
Younger people want to enroll in Medicare sooner. Older people love Social Security. Parents clamor for public education. Students flock to public universities and scramble over one another for public educational grants. The whole east coast loves Amtrak, particularly when compared to prospect of being crammed aboard some Boeing To Die sardine can. People generally like having a post office and a garbage collection service.
Obama barely got the ACA passed when he had a veto proof majority.
Because the insurance lobbyists in the US Senate worked overtime to kill it. Not because people hated the idea of increased Medicaid enrollment.
If you listened to Harris’s acceptance speech at the DNC, its definitely becoming a two-way street with these neocon ghouls. She’s accepting their endorsements today. And she’s going to start taking their advice tomorrow.
Blah blah Trump Worse Blah blah. But Harris surrounding herself with the Bush/Cheney crowd does not bode well for our foreign policy going into 2025. And I’m not exactly bullshit about our economic prospects when Mr. “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt” is whispering in the next President’s ear.
i mean look bro i’ll welcome whoever admits the faults of the republican party, we’ve got a low bar set here. We gotta take what we can get you feel me?
They can join, but I’d better not hear the D leaders basically saying to Romney and McConnell ilk : “Sit up here, friend! 😘Now you can join us and take the wheel to help us steer our country somewhere better!”
If they don’t want to fuck this up, they’d better say to any of these likely turncoats : “sit down and row ya bilge rat. If I think yer not tryin’ yer damndest or look to not be doing yer part I’ll lock ye cockle shells in irons and toss yer ass as a meat anchor to the bloodthirsty sharks in the depths below.”
they don’t exactly have much of an option here. They either support the trump campaign and do a little bit of silly, or they support the dems which won’t do much if any silly.
Regardless, any republican willing to fence sit this hard on this election cycle is likely going to be a decent person anyway. They probably won’t have a ton of support for the dems, but it’s a good sign that we have support from republicans so i’ll take what i can get.
I also think it’s extremely unlikely that any of them actually get any significant say outside of the standard voting procedure. They’re unlikely to line up perfectly, but again, any support is support.
Although i would kill for a pirate impression in the government, not gonna lie.
i still cant believe we just made emojis a thing, emoticons were perfect, and now i have to contend with this “message” that consists of a pirate flag, an emoji face and a fucking bird.
Too bad. We’re watching the death throes of the GOP, and the Dems will stay right to continue courting the hemorrhaging right-wing voters. It’s just another little reminder that after electing Harris, leftists will need to continue to organize to form our own pro-labor party.
You know that… I know that.
Do the consultants and millionaire pundits in the beltway at the ears of those in power know that?
I mean… so many of the people on TV seem to LOVE pretending there’s some sort of fairy-tale “middle-of-the-road” voter that only wants a little teensy tiny bit of genocide, racism, federal abortion ban, and just a little tiny 0.001% increase in taxes for billionaires… rather than just fascists / fascist apologists (Republican Trump supporters)… and people who don’t want fascist bullshit (everyone else).
and if anyone wants anything done in congress, then we’re going to need compromise and coalition building because neither party is getting a supermajority any time soon.
No one wants compromise. No one wants the “one time mail-in rebate coupon” version of legislation.
They want simple universal non-means tested policies that work everywhere else in the industrialized 1st world countries that cost billionaires real money that they can easily afford which then provides nearly every other American real tangible life-changing benefits.
No one wants the compromised version of human rights. No one wants the compromised version of medical debt forgiveness. No one wants the compromised version of universal healthcare.
DO NOT compromise AGAIN.
If they wanna join that’s fine, but they come to over to OUR side.
We don’t move to them.
We don’t extend a hand. Biden and Obama did that with McConnell with olive branches like fucking Merrick Garland… and they still slapped the helping compromising hands away.
Please don’t fall for the Lucy football shit yet again.
…And if that doesn’t work. I want some Machiavellian shit. I want Kamala to inform Joe Manchin that “it would be a shame if his daughter - who bought the rights to the Epipen were to have that shit investigated and nationalized under the Sherman Act since it is imperative to national security that emergency medical care be available at a reasonable price for all Americans who need it… that it would be a shame if the EPA came and investigated his yacht for potential violations…”
I want every single thing investigated and paperwork dumped on these ACTUAL shitheads blocking the good things ALL Americans should be demanding… and I want Harris at the bully pulpit clearly blaming and POINTING right in the faces of those blocking it… directing Americans’ collective righteous fiery ire where it is completely deserved, until they are TERRIFIED to NOT support her objectively magnanimous policy efforts.
Trump did evil versions of this every day in office - it’s how we ended up with Jan 6th idiots storming the Capitol. The good version is just basically telling the truth and not being afraid of the whiny ultra-rich donors and ghoul rat liar fake D politicians who aren’t loyal to her anyway.
There won’t be any compromise. The Republicans will just block everything as much as they can like they did with Obama.
What you need to do is use the bully pulpit and get the populace on your side so that Congress is afraid to oppose you (unless they want to risk losing their seats).
I mean… I don’t WANT these asshats feeling welcomed to our side just like I don’t want a billionaire talking at the DNC, and I don’t want a Republican getting speaking time while others with much more important less ethically reprehensible things to say aren’t allowed even 3 minutes on stage.
I want us to win despite these people, with folks like Lena Khan getting more props. I don’t want the endorsement of these rats jumping from the sinking R ship to the D ship because they smell some cheddar they might can come nibble on.
Your concerns are valid but all the Rs coming out like this is more about how terrible Trump is and less about anything else. Don’t underestimate how many moderates there are in both parties and these Rs help there - progressives need their votes. After Trump is gone, we can hopefully go back to trying to improve the voting system, pushing Dems more left and hope that anyone on the right exchanges some of their selfinterests for social interests - but that’s best we can dream for.
Adding Republicans won’t push the Democrats to the left. It’s just going to keep ahoving the overton window further and further to the right.
Your feelings don’t matter.
Trump has a 43% favorable rating, and there’s a good chance he could win in November.
Even after the Nazis had taken Paris, there were French monarchists who felt they were too good to unite with the Communists in the Resistance.
When the Dems have an unbreakable, veto proof majority in Congress and the Senate, and the White House, then we can start to pick and choose.
I know we need to partner with everyone who will join us at the ballot… I just do NOT want the policies being reshaped in order to “better attract” the right-wingers - whose gutting of our already laughable social safety net was a key aspect that made so many increasingly desperate Americans far more vulnerable to demagoguery like that which is constantly espoused by figures like Trump.
The real solution is clearly laid out as history has multiple examples to show.
When people can’t meet their base socioeconomic needs, they are more vulnerable to this shit. So raise the baseline standards such that everyone who isn’t a billionaire is far better off - no medical debt, no student debt, affordable rent and housing, job and financial stability, and being able to afford to have a family.
Do NOT do cuts to our already barely-existing social and economic safety nets.
She’s not changing, they are.
Create an unbreakable veto-proof majority of Romney Staffers and you’re going to end up with an unbreakable veto-proof policy written by Romney Staffers.
I haven’t seen Harris take a step backwards yet. The Romney folks are accepting her as she is.
She’s hostile to immigration. She’s friendly with corporate finance and the California tech sector. She threw away her platforms on universal health care, higher minimum wage, and educational debt forgiveness to get the VP slot. She’s a zealous supporter of the MIC and has yet to find a war she doesn’t like. Her brother-in-law is a chief executive at Uber, ffs.
Why would she need to take a step backwards to meet Mitt Romney? They’re joined at the hip.
BoTH SideS aRe THe SamE!
Don’t vote at all until we get the perfect candidate!! Surely sitting on the sidelines will push the Dems to the Left!!
Surely if I beat this straw man hard enough, I will win the argument!
Reply to an actual comment.
Get accused of creating a strawman.
The Romney wing of the Republican Party has huge overlap with the Biden wing of the Democratic Party.
Something like 2% of the population thinks that Gaza is a big problem for America.
43% of the population thinks Donald Trump would be a good President.
Stop acting like you’re living in a country on the verge of a Socialist revolution.
Obama barely got the ACA passed when he had a veto proof majority.
I hate to be the one who has to explain this to you.
Not actually true. You’ll see a 3-5% swing in the polls based on how closely Republicans and Democrats are aligned on supporting the Israeli genocide.
When you listen to Trump talk, a big part of his platform is appealing to the (whites only) democratic socialism common to the 50s and 60s. When Kamala panders to her base, she talks about cutting the private cost of health care and education. I’m not sure where you got the idea of a pending Socialist Revolution. But socialist policy is consistently appealing across large majorities of the American voting base.
Younger people want to enroll in Medicare sooner. Older people love Social Security. Parents clamor for public education. Students flock to public universities and scramble over one another for public educational grants. The whole east coast loves Amtrak, particularly when compared to prospect of being crammed aboard some Boeing To Die sardine can. People generally like having a post office and a garbage collection service.
Because the insurance lobbyists in the US Senate worked overtime to kill it. Not because people hated the idea of increased Medicaid enrollment.
If you listened to Harris’s acceptance speech at the DNC, its definitely becoming a two-way street with these neocon ghouls. She’s accepting their endorsements today. And she’s going to start taking their advice tomorrow.
Blah blah Trump Worse Blah blah. But Harris surrounding herself with the Bush/Cheney crowd does not bode well for our foreign policy going into 2025. And I’m not exactly bullshit about our economic prospects when Mr. “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt” is whispering in the next President’s ear.
Always nice to see another weevil in the wild
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i mean look bro i’ll welcome whoever admits the faults of the republican party, we’ve got a low bar set here. We gotta take what we can get you feel me?
actually, on second thought, don’t touch me.
Ok how about this :
They can join, but I’d better not hear the D leaders basically saying to Romney and McConnell ilk : “Sit up here, friend! 😘Now you can join us and take the wheel to help us steer our country somewhere better!”
If they don’t want to fuck this up, they’d better say to any of these likely turncoats : “sit down and row ya bilge rat. If I think yer not tryin’ yer damndest or look to not be doing yer part I’ll lock ye cockle shells in irons and toss yer ass as a meat anchor to the bloodthirsty sharks in the depths below.”
they don’t exactly have much of an option here. They either support the trump campaign and do a little bit of silly, or they support the dems which won’t do much if any silly.
Regardless, any republican willing to fence sit this hard on this election cycle is likely going to be a decent person anyway. They probably won’t have a ton of support for the dems, but it’s a good sign that we have support from republicans so i’ll take what i can get.
I also think it’s extremely unlikely that any of them actually get any significant say outside of the standard voting procedure. They’re unlikely to line up perfectly, but again, any support is support.
Although i would kill for a pirate impression in the government, not gonna lie.
🏴☠️ 😜 🦜
i still cant believe we just made emojis a thing, emoticons were perfect, and now i have to contend with this “message” that consists of a pirate flag, an emoji face and a fucking bird.
😥
now we’re speaking on remotely the same level, though i still can’t help but imagine this as the action of shedding a single tear.
We’ve gone full circle to the writing system of hieroglyphics .
Too bad. We’re watching the death throes of the GOP, and the Dems will stay right to continue courting the hemorrhaging right-wing voters. It’s just another little reminder that after electing Harris, leftists will need to continue to organize to form our own pro-labor party.
an endorsement != theyre setting policy
You know that… I know that. Do the consultants and millionaire pundits in the beltway at the ears of those in power know that?
I mean… so many of the people on TV seem to LOVE pretending there’s some sort of fairy-tale “middle-of-the-road” voter that only wants a little teensy tiny bit of genocide, racism, federal abortion ban, and just a little tiny 0.001% increase in taxes for billionaires… rather than just fascists / fascist apologists (Republican Trump supporters)… and people who don’t want fascist bullshit (everyone else).
and if anyone wants anything done in congress, then we’re going to need compromise and coalition building because neither party is getting a supermajority any time soon.
No, we don’t need compromise.
No one wants compromise. No one wants the “one time mail-in rebate coupon” version of legislation.
They want simple universal non-means tested policies that work everywhere else in the industrialized 1st world countries that cost billionaires real money that they can easily afford which then provides nearly every other American real tangible life-changing benefits.
No one wants the compromised version of human rights. No one wants the compromised version of medical debt forgiveness. No one wants the compromised version of universal healthcare.
DO NOT compromise AGAIN.
If they wanna join that’s fine, but they come to over to OUR side.
We don’t move to them.
We don’t extend a hand. Biden and Obama did that with McConnell with olive branches like fucking Merrick Garland… and they still slapped the helping compromising hands away.
Please don’t fall for the Lucy football shit yet again.
feel free to tell me how you’ll get 67 votes without compromise for single payer healthcare
Certainly.
The same way LBJ got assholes blocking his legislative goals to move out of the way : http://www.americanyawp.com/text/wp-content/uploads/Lyndon_Johnson_and_Richard_Russell.jpg
The same way FDR got the conservative leaning Supreme Court to stop blocking his agenda…
…And if that doesn’t work. I want some Machiavellian shit. I want Kamala to inform Joe Manchin that “it would be a shame if his daughter - who bought the rights to the Epipen were to have that shit investigated and nationalized under the Sherman Act since it is imperative to national security that emergency medical care be available at a reasonable price for all Americans who need it… that it would be a shame if the EPA came and investigated his yacht for potential violations…”
I want every single thing investigated and paperwork dumped on these ACTUAL shitheads blocking the good things ALL Americans should be demanding… and I want Harris at the bully pulpit clearly blaming and POINTING right in the faces of those blocking it… directing Americans’ collective righteous fiery ire where it is completely deserved, until they are TERRIFIED to NOT support her objectively magnanimous policy efforts.
Trump did evil versions of this every day in office - it’s how we ended up with Jan 6th idiots storming the Capitol. The good version is just basically telling the truth and not being afraid of the whiny ultra-rich donors and ghoul rat liar fake D politicians who aren’t loyal to her anyway.
There won’t be any compromise. The Republicans will just block everything as much as they can like they did with Obama.
What you need to do is use the bully pulpit and get the populace on your side so that Congress is afraid to oppose you (unless they want to risk losing their seats).