I don’t exactly blame him. That assassination attempt was a massive failure on the organization that should be fail proof.
At the same time, I wonder if this will just be a way to remind people about it. Nobody is talking about it anymore and it was a huge deal for his campaign.
I thought it was interesting that he said he was going to return to the same location in October for a rally. That is a great strategy. So far that is the only thing his campaign has going for it, so might as well lean into it (the strategy…).
I assume that it is no longer being reported on because Trump’s campaign planners could’nt even find halfway credible evidence that the assassin was not a conservative. This can hardly be explained in any other way than that Trump is not very popular with his own violent supporters.
I wouldn’t say “not very popular” … it’s more like there’s a non-zero chance that some of his violent, unhinged followers will, upon realizing he’s a fraud and they’ve been duped all this time, turn their violence towards him. It only takes one.
TL;DW: The Alt-Right online presence fails in real life; at some point, frothing rageaholic incels pop a gasket and head on out into the world. Mostly, as cowards, they attack innocent civilians, but if one was particularly focused on Saint McRapey they might go that way too.
The video sums it up pretty well. In my opinion, it’s all the sadder that all this even works internationally. I’m from Germany and we’re dealing with the same problem here, with the same right-wing radical rhetoric on social media and all the bogus arguments that go with it: People who think they are entitled to more because of their nationality (or whatever) than they have achieved on their own in their lives. I’m all the more ashamed because, unlike the USA, we have a reasonably functioning social system (so that can’t be an excuse). Just because of that, it should be much more difficult to recruit people for fascist ideas here, but the sad assholes who want to rule the lives of others because it doesn’t conform to their narrow-minded ideas seem all the more prevalent here. It’s enough to make you cry.
Also you’d think people in Germany would remember that time they let a fascist run things and he got tens of millions of people killed killed and the country invaded, occupied, and broken apart.
Yes, I guess this is due to the friendly support of people like Elon Musk, who are probably less concerned with ideology than with expanding their powerbase in an autocratic system - these people don’t care about the “couleur” of any system, the main thing is just even more power. I suppose that’s why modern fascism has this strange love affair with pro-forma communist systems like Russia.
Not sure what you’re getting at, but it was an undeniable massive failure of the secret service. He never should have gotten as close as he did with a gun.
Something I have encountered with protective situations, and which I haven’t seen addressed anywhere regarding Trump is why the sightline to the buildings weren’t simply blocked.
It is impossible to secure every single location, but if there is a cluster of buildings, you park a semi-truck and trailer in the line of sight (or put up a green fence, or whatever) and then you have the much easier job of securing your blocking.
I wonder if we’ll ever get answered to this. It seemed like such a basic failure that it should never have happened. I’m surprised the house didn’t immediately start hearings and pressing people for answers. Makes me think they would end up finding themselves to blame or something.
There was a House hearing, and the USSS director resigned.
There were no good answers provided in the hearing. Complacency and sloppiness of procedure seem to be the baseline answer, but pinpointing names of who exactly on the ground failed is difficult for the public.
"The team at Bethel Park shoots Anschutz single-shot rifles with peep sights and .22-caliber ammunition, Jameson Murphy and another former student explained.
The shooting range at the school is 50 feet long by 21 feet wide, with seven ranges.
Crooks once fired from the seventh lane — the closest to the right wall — and hit the left wall, completely missing every target on the back wall. He missed his target by close to 20 feet, Murphy recalled.
“He tried out … and was such a comically bad shot, he was unable to make the team and left after the first day,” Murphy said."
I’m suspicious about how it’s even possible to be that bad of a shot. The muzzle would have to be pointed way to the side, in which case the range safety officer should have tore him a new asshole.
I imagine the fact that he constantly forced the secret service to pay over the odds to stay at properties he owns probably didn’t encourage them to assign their best and brightest to protect him.
I don’t exactly blame him. That assassination attempt was a massive failure on the organization that should be fail proof.
At the same time, I wonder if this will just be a way to remind people about it. Nobody is talking about it anymore and it was a huge deal for his campaign.
I thought it was interesting that he said he was going to return to the same location in October for a rally. That is a great strategy. So far that is the only thing his campaign has going for it, so might as well lean into it (the strategy…).
I assume that it is no longer being reported on because Trump’s campaign planners could’nt even find halfway credible evidence that the assassin was not a conservative. This can hardly be explained in any other way than that Trump is not very popular with his own violent supporters.
I wouldn’t say “not very popular” … it’s more like there’s a non-zero chance that some of his violent, unhinged followers will, upon realizing he’s a fraud and they’ve been duped all this time, turn their violence towards him. It only takes one.
That is of course quite possible. That’s just the way it is when you don’t build on a political program, but on hatred and idiocy instead.
This video explained it very well for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g
TL;DW: The Alt-Right online presence fails in real life; at some point, frothing rageaholic incels pop a gasket and head on out into the world. Mostly, as cowards, they attack innocent civilians, but if one was particularly focused on Saint McRapey they might go that way too.
The video sums it up pretty well. In my opinion, it’s all the sadder that all this even works internationally. I’m from Germany and we’re dealing with the same problem here, with the same right-wing radical rhetoric on social media and all the bogus arguments that go with it: People who think they are entitled to more because of their nationality (or whatever) than they have achieved on their own in their lives. I’m all the more ashamed because, unlike the USA, we have a reasonably functioning social system (so that can’t be an excuse). Just because of that, it should be much more difficult to recruit people for fascist ideas here, but the sad assholes who want to rule the lives of others because it doesn’t conform to their narrow-minded ideas seem all the more prevalent here. It’s enough to make you cry.
Also you’d think people in Germany would remember that time they let a fascist run things and he got tens of millions of people killed killed and the country invaded, occupied, and broken apart.
It’s almost like the impetus for these far-right movements is somehow multi-national or something. ;)
Yes, I guess this is due to the friendly support of people like Elon Musk, who are probably less concerned with ideology than with expanding their powerbase in an autocratic system - these people don’t care about the “couleur” of any system, the main thing is just even more power. I suppose that’s why modern fascism has this strange love affair with pro-forma communist systems like Russia.
Idiocracy*
It’s the only movie that started out as satire and became a documentary over time
There’s still time for Mad Max to be true, be patient.
Well, apparently he didn’t have time to properly zero his sights or practice with his weapon.
What?
Not sure what you’re getting at, but it was an undeniable massive failure of the secret service. He never should have gotten as close as he did with a gun.
Something I have encountered with protective situations, and which I haven’t seen addressed anywhere regarding Trump is why the sightline to the buildings weren’t simply blocked.
It is impossible to secure every single location, but if there is a cluster of buildings, you park a semi-truck and trailer in the line of sight (or put up a green fence, or whatever) and then you have the much easier job of securing your blocking.
But I guess that’s a really in the weeds.
I wonder if we’ll ever get answered to this. It seemed like such a basic failure that it should never have happened. I’m surprised the house didn’t immediately start hearings and pressing people for answers. Makes me think they would end up finding themselves to blame or something.
There was a House hearing, and the USSS director resigned.
There were no good answers provided in the hearing. Complacency and sloppiness of procedure seem to be the baseline answer, but pinpointing names of who exactly on the ground failed is difficult for the public.
Ok, I definitely didn’t pay attention to that.
For someone who previously couldn’t hit the backstop at a range, he came surprisingly close.
Yeah, yeah, I know, NY Post, but they broke this one:
https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/us-news/would-be-trump-assassin-tried-to-join-high-school-shooting-club-was-rejected-for-being-comically-bad-shot/
"The team at Bethel Park shoots Anschutz single-shot rifles with peep sights and .22-caliber ammunition, Jameson Murphy and another former student explained.
The shooting range at the school is 50 feet long by 21 feet wide, with seven ranges.
Crooks once fired from the seventh lane — the closest to the right wall — and hit the left wall, completely missing every target on the back wall. He missed his target by close to 20 feet, Murphy recalled.
“He tried out … and was such a comically bad shot, he was unable to make the team and left after the first day,” Murphy said."
I’m suspicious about how it’s even possible to be that bad of a shot. The muzzle would have to be pointed way to the side, in which case the range safety officer should have tore him a new asshole.
I imagine the fact that he constantly forced the secret service to pay over the odds to stay at properties he owns probably didn’t encourage them to assign their best and brightest to protect him.