• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    While that may be true, I feel like you’re ignoring the fact that a foundational change to the core procedures that the EU operates by could absolutely drive more than a few member states to bail - and I’m not talking about Hungary or Poland.

    Whenever you come across a “sword” solution to a Gordian knot of a situation like this, it’s crucial to consider how you’d feel if the shoe was on the other foot. This is, in fact, one of the core points of a democratic, rules-based system of government - the rules must be applied agnostically. If you’re making a rule that only “works” when you/your party are in power, it’s an objectively bad rule, and will be used in ways that you are guaranteed to not like.

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      10 months ago

      The problem in this case is that a single veto stops everything. To get anything throu the EU it has to be a compromise. That is just the nature of a multi state system, with even more parties. So usually those laws are not that insane, as the commone ground is generally speaking in the political center. The veto rule gives extremist minorities a lot more power, as 26 of the members can agree, but one can stop it. So if you are not a political radical in the EU political landscape, this rule is good for you.

      However members bailing is possible, but it is balanced out with greater unity allowing for economy of scale in a lot of fields. So loosing a few members might very well be worth it for the EU, if it turns the EU into a proper country.

    • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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      10 months ago

      Which states do you consider at risk of leaving the EU for that?

      The Visegard states like to bark, but when the alternative becomes being a russian puppet again, they will come back crying and stop trying to play both the EU and Russia.

      The Netherlands would commit economic suicide on so many levels when their harbors would no longer access the EU and they couldnt export their own product there either. Also the drug cartels wont be happy at all.

      Without the EU Putin would try to reignite the Balcan into war, so his Serbian puppets can scoop up some territory for him.

      The western European countries know that their economy would go down in epic proportions, if any of them left the EU.