• sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz
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    11 months ago

    That would be the most Dem thing Dems have ever done. Play games and get Haley elected when Biden would have just cruised over trump.

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      11 months ago

      I don’t suspect Biden will just cruise over Trump. Look at the polls, Trump leads in swing states. I hope Biden can win, but it won’t be easy.

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        11 months ago

        Don’t mention polling. Centrists hate it because it indicates that their constant shift rightward has become unpopular.

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        11 months ago

        Actual results since roe was overturned have been ~+9 towards dem/dem supported policies than polling has said. I still have hope.

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        11 months ago

        If he’s lost the Muslim vote, hopefully he has, he’s gonna lose by enormous numbers. The numbers from 2020 support this.

        Georgia won by 11k votes - has 120k Muslims Arizona won by 10k votes has 109k Muslims Wisconsin won by 20k votes - has 68k Muslims Pennsylvania won by 80k votes has 150k Muslims Michigan won by 150k votes - has 241k Muslims

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      Haley isn’t getting elected. She has virtually no path towards the GOP nomination. If she did, MAGATs aren’t going to vote for her unless he was on the ballot, and then if she did put him on the ballot, she’ll lose the moderate votes.

      Trump has a chance to cause chaos by losing another general election. He could also do even more damage by winning another general election. Haley, if she somehow won the primary and general, would be so much less destructive.

      So yeah, voting for Haley in the primary is the fucking move and it’s why I didn’t vote for Biden in the SC primary.

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          11 months ago

          Look, no Democrat is saying she’d be great or even close to being better than Biden.

          But she’d certainly be better than Trump. And if she can split the Republican votes in the general election, even better.

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              11 months ago

              When Haley tries to overthrow the government, I’ll say she’s as bad as Trump. Until that happens, I say Trump is worse.

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            11 months ago

            No, she wouldn’t be. Trump at least has value from an accelerationist POV, Haley’s going to do all things Trump would but as less of a publicly shitposting moron.

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                Some of these clowns have finally convinced themselves that sitting home and complaining is now direct political action and will get them the things they want, it’s wild.

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                Man - you were ON POINT until the final paragraph.

                Removed, rule 6. 24 hour ban.

                “No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning”

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              I think Biden is the accelerationist candidate. Why? Bc if Trump wins, the system will just roll over and enforce his whims. The Dems will just accept it, and there likely will never be any more democracy. It will be much harder to force change. However, if Biden wins, the right will not accept it. Either the republicans will attempt to disrupt the election results, or the right will escalate domestic terrorism, etc.

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          I don’t care if she sucks. She won’t beat Trump in the end. The longer she stays in the race, the more angry he’s gonna get at his own party

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            People said the exact same shit about trump in 2016 and tried to do the same meta gaming shit you’re trying to do, and look how that turned out. Ffs just admit you don’t know what the fuck you’re doing and vote like a normal person instead of big braining us into fascism again

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              Lmfao. Haley won’t be a fascist. The fascist will be a fascist. You don’t have to pretend like you know what you’re talking about

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                11 months ago

                Liberals, the only people who will vote and run ads for the far right and then blame everyone else when democrats lose the election 🙃

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        She wins the primary if SCOTUS rules that Trump is an insurrectionist, and she polls well against Biden precisely because she appeals to “enlightened centrists.”

        The question is not whether Trump should be barred as insurrectionist. The question is what candidate the leash holders of certain Justices want.

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          I have a very hard time seeing Trump supporters coming around to vote for her when he’s painted her as a part of the deep state

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        Jesus Christ when are you gonna learn that these stupid 4d chess moves don’t fucking work? You’re gonna be literally supporting republicans, and when that gets a republican in office again you’re probably gonna blame 3rd party voters and leftists and young people and Russia and literally everyone other than yourself for republicans winning. This shit backfires all the time, don’t fuck us all over with this “big brain” bullshit again please

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          seriously. i have a policy that i only vote for someone if i want them to have the office (i know, i’m a fucking lunatic).