i know you’ve probably been always taught differently, but this is objectively untrue. this country was literally built on genocide and slavery, it was steeped in misogyny and racism.
Yeah I dunno about all that… Hitler famously got most of his ideas from America. He modeled a lot of Nazi Germany after Jim Crow, and all the eugenics stuff originated in the US and was big in the academic community prior to WW2.
We even had a massive conspiracy by corporations to take down FDR and install a fascist dictator. George W. Bush’s grandfather was literally involved.
You’re not wrong, but I also don’t think the US is unique in that regard. There’s been a lot of bullshit going on, even in countries that you would never imagine things like that happening in.
People who support this aren’t American anyway. Real Americans believe in human rights
Who upvotes this no true Scotsman bullshit?
I’m sorry, but when you actively support bullshit laws like this that dehumanize people, you don’t get to call yourself an American. Simple as that
To be clear, I am not defending them. I am just pointing out bad logic because it leads to bad beliefs and opinions.
Unfortunately, these people are Americans, and there’s a whole bunch of them. There is no value whatsoever in trying to argue otherwise.
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All I’m trying to say is that fascism is decidedly un-American
Unfortunately that seems to be changing. It’s almost as if this country learned nothing 80 years ago
i know you’ve probably been always taught differently, but this is objectively untrue. this country was literally built on genocide and slavery, it was steeped in misogyny and racism.
America has always been this.
Yeah I dunno about all that… Hitler famously got most of his ideas from America. He modeled a lot of Nazi Germany after Jim Crow, and all the eugenics stuff originated in the US and was big in the academic community prior to WW2.
We even had a massive conspiracy by corporations to take down FDR and install a fascist dictator. George W. Bush’s grandfather was literally involved.
I suppose you’re right that bringing nationality into it probably wasn’t the best idea.
This is still unacceptable though
The US were built on genocide and fueled by slavery.
Most countries were. You can’t work backwards. You have to work forward towards the future
Have you read black history in the US? :)
Or read about native Americans? I say read because they are almost extinct
Or, like, any pre-2008 American history lmao
Recognizing human rights was an anomaly over the last few years, not the norm
You’re not wrong, but I also don’t think the US is unique in that regard. There’s been a lot of bullshit going on, even in countries that you would never imagine things like that happening in.
In most decent states there’s been a ton of progress. I never claimed we were always perfect. No country has been.
No I know. I would say all countries are pretty fucked up actually. Because human leaders are greedy and awful human beings in most cases.
You say “decent states” as if you think rural east Oregon is better than Atlanta in that regard, just because Oregon is blue and Georgia is red.
bans identifying as human
The sad thing is that Mango Mussolini would be stupid enough to actually pass something like that.