• coolusername@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    Russia’s economy is better than before the SMO started. All media in the US and those of US-controled/couped countries are controlled by the CIA.

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      7 hours ago

      What is SMO?

      Isn’t that the lie Putin told the world about the Russian war of aggression and invasion of Ukraine?

      3 days, right?

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      21 hours ago

      GDP can increase during a war, but that’s not as beneficial as growth during peace. After all the military equipment produced doesn’t last long or provides much long term value to the economy. A civilian truck, excavator, or train locomotive can create more value for an economy for decades. A trank or artillery piece will only last for a few months during war and only causes destruction, no creation. So yeah, nominally the economy might increase, but all that labor might be for nothing in the end.

      It has been very impressive how Russia transformed its economy and circumvented sanctions. Production of military equipment is high and still increasing in parts. Goods for domestic consumption are also doing okay and standard of living hasn’t fallen much.

      Of course none of this is sustainable and has only been achievable by all kinds of tricks, but for now it works.

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        At a minimum we can say that Russia has transitioned pretty well into a war economy. It is an economic transition that is going very nice for the working class. For a long time OSINT has shown nearly depleted reserves of equipment, but they have gone very light infantry. I think it is concerning they might eek out a pyrrhic victory. It is hard to say how much longer they can stretch what is left.

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          It is an economic transition that is going very nice for the working class

          Yeah, must be real nice just lying in a field in ukraine pushing up sunflowers

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            7 hours ago

            I know what you mean, but the soldiers they recruit are so poor they are seeing real economic benefit for themselves and their families; more over, working class wages have grown past inflation giving them a real wage increase. Ironically the biggest losers are the oligarchs.

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              Yes, that’s actually pretty typical of warfare under the original feudalism, too. The rich hoard their wealth, until they’re gone and their palaces can be looted, or they need to bribe a mass of peasants to save their ass. Then you get redistribution.

              I’m not really sure I’d call a short-term, unsustainable cash injection at the cost of actual infrastructure and development “good for the working class”, though. If Russia becomes the next Venezuela or even Somalia they might end up with bigger problems than no Lada.

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                It is good for the working class in Russia and by Russian standards. These economic analysis tell us that all else equal we cannot expect Russian civil disobedience at this stage. Ironically it does mean a palace coup is more likely due to the brunt being held by Oligarchs. As for long term benefits? Hard to say, but people live today not tomorrow. Today the Russian working class is going to eat better than yesterday.

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      The CIA wishes they were even a tenth as competent as you think they are.

      Go read any of the declassified reports of CIA activity, starting with the Church commission.

      Or the actual events of Benghazi.

      The truth is, the CIA is full of bumbling chucklefucks who have no clue if the actions they take will have the effect they want.

      They can do a lot of damage, but like you, they also tend to believe the Hollywood myth making.

      This belief doesn’t make them any more competent, but it does make them more reckless and dangerous.

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      This is not a special military operation. It involves the citizens of both nations directly involved.

      The War in Afghanistan. The War in Iraq. The War in Gaza.

      The War in Ukraine. Started by Russia after their puppet government was ousted in Ukraine.