They were introduced in the first Trek film to justify being able to see the ship at all:

“And whoever was designing the process of making the visual effects hadn’t really thought about what I was thinking about, which was how do you see the Enterprise when it’s in deep space, when it’s not near the sun or a star or anything? What’s the source of light? Where’s the key light? Where’s the fill light? How are you going to make this thing beautiful? And my thought about it was how to make it light itself up, kind of like the Titanic at night. And make it light itself up by having lights onboard the nacelles, shining on the fuselage, and from the fuselage shining up on the nacelles, and make it look like it’s self-illuminated. So I didn’t have to justify a key light, because there wouldn’t be one. And no one had ever thought of that."

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/12/07/star-trek-the-motion-picture-tmp-enterprise-refit-drydock-douglas-trumbull

Maybe not literally, but the season 3 episode where Discovery arrived in the future went hard on the western vibes. I think they even included swinging saloon doors at one point.

Love TMP. I like a film that takes its time and builds a mood.

I’ll also never get tired of loving beauty shots of the gorgeous 1701 refit.

Perhaps http://meninhats.com?

Nah, Picard was the gross one. He made the decision to date a subordinate in Lessons, and it ended with the woman in question transferring to another ship.

Kirk pointedly kept it in his pants when it came to the women under his command (unless he was under the influence of an alien virus, or artificial memories, or personality altering transporter accident…)

At a very basic level, the concept could work - jump into the future to show how the crew’s adventures are remembered. Babylon 5 succeeded at the same kind of idea for their excellent Season 4 finale.

But B5 showed that the characters left a profound and enduring legacy. In These Are The Voyages, Riker consumes the story of Trip’s death like it’s a mildly engaging episode of a daytime soap - between the scenes of a better episode that works much better without the addition. It’s just the worst execution you could imagine.

Does the ringship count? I’m not sure at what point a “spaceship” becomes a “starship”.

Absolutely. nuTrek is supposed to be the sex starved one? Commander Riker would have something to say about that, but he’s busy on holodeck four.

Strange New Worlds spins off from Discovery and carries on plot elements established there. Section 31 continues Georgiou’s story, and Starfleet Academy is picking up on the 31st century setting and characters. That’s a lot of ongoing influence.

Kirk. Pike’s undershirt ruins the look, and Archer just doesn’t fill it out the same.

You just inspired me to search for the original broadcast as I saw it, live from the Skydome. It was such a huge event:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiNzW5uoz4_tqNDirrP9rPcDEhp-YHye8&si=XhfmDjqlByOWEK3_

That footnote points to an uncredited trekplace article from 2004 that itself has no citations. There was never an “original vision" that Klingons have bumpy heads, that was an idea entirely original to TMP.

Anyway, how do we feel about the Star Trek III redesign? In TMP it was one hairless bump that was supposed to represent a spinal column, running all the way from the back over the cranium. TSFS and onward, suddenly it was a flatter, wider set of ridges that was localized only to the forehead, with a full head of hair behind it. For some reason I’m always seeing people act like those are the same design, but to me the differences are glaringly obvious.

TV and movie productions are collaborative efforts undertaken by a huge number of creative people, and I don’t think any of them make their decisions for no reason. The “original creator” of the Klingons was Gene L. Coon, who had nothing to do with their portrayal in TMP.

Because Wesley was a super annoying character, particularly in the first season? https://youtube.com/shorts/TzdnutR02NY?si=H5ihPkhP--hepd4H

Also, the second panel of this meme is just perfectly captured and captioned. It’d be hilarious whoever they were talking about.

Who wanted a visual reboot of the Klingons?

Gene Roddenberry, I guess. IMO the guy really fell off when he turned Trek into a saturday morning cartoon show. But yeah, sweaty orc is right, just look at these monstrosities:

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Yeah, I’m facetiously comparing the 1979 arguments over bumpy headed Klingons to the 2017 arguments over cone headed Klingons. What’s “new” keeps on changing, but the arguments about it stay eerily familiar.

NuTrek started when they did a full visual reboot, including completely changing the look of the Klingons: TMP.

Then it got worse, when they followed that up with a grimdark shoot-em-up that felt nothing like Trek. These people aren’t even fans of the show!

Thinks she’s Sisko, but she’s Kai Winn.