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  • Gaza population was steadily increasing for all these years. This doesn’t bode well with the “prison” sentiment in my opinion. They had institutions. They could teach their own population. Their actions could be more logical. Instead it seems they’ve been spreading terrorist propaganda (literally pushing their children to become merciless terrorists) and spending resources on building offensive tech instead of defenses. I can not justify actions of Israel (though I can understand why the ground operation was started) but there is no way I can agree that actions of hamas had any logical ground.


  • I didn’t mean to say anything that Israel did was okay. But a lot of it is understandable, e.g. the ground operation was very well expected by everyone when it became clear the hostages are not getting released. No matter how you look at it, Gaza was not ready.

    And if we consider the October attack itself, only some of it is understandable (“they couldn’t bear with oppression any longer” sentiment, which itself is problematic at best).





  • It actually seems more like a windows 10 compatibility dilemma for developers. You can support older systems but it would require some effort. The problem is not the absence of some specific certificates, but the absence of newer ciphers altogether.

    This does give security but also removes backwards compatibility with some clients that might be important for some websites.







  • You switched the topic of the discussion. My original comment stands, as it corrects some part of your first comment.

    I didn’t suggest anyone to use telegram.

    They have repeatedly worked with governments and worked against the interests of their users.

    Even though those allegations are arguable, I know what you mean. And those cases don’t involve compromising the actual encryption from what I understand.


  • Ah yes, definitely go with a messenger that has known vulnerabilities in its crappy encryption protocol, instead of one with an actual secure E2EE implementation.

    Feel free to go any way you want. I’m not asking you to use telegram.

    You can still make encrypted backups

    Spend time for that, and keep them where? Maybe also need a feature to sync them between mobile and desktop?

    Only Telegram is too incompetent to do that.

    Not an implementation issue but a trust issue.

    Just stop lying. Telegram Secret Chats have been introduced in 2017

    https://telegram.org/evolution see October 2013.

    both Signal and WhatsApp have had E2EE (including for group chats!) for much longer.

    Whatsapp had them inctorudec in 2016.

    Are you mad that Signal is focusing on privacy and security by improving their encryption protocol, instead of wasting time on some UI garbage?

    I’m perfectly fine with that. More apps using electron means less chance for my pc to run garbage applications on a regular basis.

    keep in mind that Telegram can read all of your messages, as well as hand them over to governments.

    Keep in mind that any person in your secret chats can read your message, copy or screenshot it and hand it to anyone else. Those people know much better if you’re doing anything sketchy (or something actually good but against their beliefs), than an app developer.


  • I think you are falling for the “genius inventor” fallacy clueless normies love a lot.

    People advertising signal everywhere look like those kind of normies to me too. Doesn’t mean much.

    The reason it’s not known to be broken is that it’s not a high value target - most people don’t use “secret chats” in TG.

    Fair assumption. But it means you accept most people are stupid enough to not want such a feature or smart enough to not need it. Telegram user base is reported to be 900 million though.