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It’s much more efficient to sway people that vote than it is to sway those that don’t vote

Now do the same for girlfriends

I think you overestimate the number of Lebanese that would steal pagers from Hezbollah.

As I said, the results just prove they made a good call (no pun intended) and with the large sample size luck just can’t be a factor

All of your problems are just one and the same: statistical probability of civilian casualties. And the nice thing with discussing the ethics of the choice to do it here is that we have the exact results. Around 2750 Hezbros hit with around 10 civilian deaths.

When they destroyed ISIS in Mosul 8 years ago, they turned that dial up all the way to a 1-on-1 ratio. 10.000 innocents for 10.000 Isibro’s.

When they destroyed them in Raqqa, they went even higher, to around 1.5.

And if it makes you happy to call it ‘terrorism’ when you see civilian casualties, go ahead.

Yeah, after Hezbollah attacked them they’re back. Good thing the Lebanese have Hezbollah to defend them from this cycle

Do you think it’d be more humane if they used larger explosives?

It was created and grew popular to make Israel withdraw, but today it mainly exists to make sure Iran’s interests in Lebanon are ‘defended’.

You’re thinking of a powerbottom, but that’s a totally different concept

You can see footage of some Hezbobros blowing up in the middle of a supermarket, with the people standing around them being unharmed. They were intended to maim the user of the device, the explosives were too small to cause much more. Sure, there are a handful of civilians hurt or even killed but this is was a lot ‘cleaner’ than throwing bombs from planes or Hezbollah’s own preferred method of firing rockets over the border.

As per Wikipedia, Hezbollah has to kill one civilian for every 2 soldiers. With the pager attacks, Israel hit 2750 Hezbobros and ‘only’ killed 2 kids.

Not improvised, and not on the civilian population, but you’re correct about the rest lol

Pretty clear from the footage and lack of civilian casualties that the collateral risk was very low though

Can you imagine what might have happened in bibi just took the hit and tried to work it out peacefully?

I think they would just be emboldened to do it again, like they said they would. Sentiment in Gaza has only recently shifted to the idea that “maybe, it wasn’t such a good plan”. I’m afraid that in the long run, Bibi’s reaction might turn out to be the best one for peace

I never said the jewish immigrants from Russia claimed the land was ‘theirs originally’. It’s a bit weird you make this jump. They were trying to find a place they wouldn’t be genocided

And what makes you conclude that violent opposition from muslim fanatics prohibits the immigrants from being peaceful?

I’m not sure if you’re really willing to open your mind on this, but the first large wave of immigrants were escapees from pogroms in Russia and they didn’t ‘steal’ any land from anyone

neither I nor the person who originally used the word ‘carpet’ were claiming that israel was “carpet” bombing civilians

They literally are carpet bombing civillians

I agree that there would be unrecorded deaths, but I don’t think Hamas has any reason to underestimate their number by a factor of five (5). There’s still a lot of structure and quite a large (international) presence of aid and medical workers, and journalists. One can use numbers from food distribution or the polio vaccinations that would easily corroborate 10% ‘missing’ population.

I think you could write 100 comments but none of them would support your claim that Israel is carpet bombing civilians

Carpet bombing in WW2 wasn’t called that because they dropped a large number of single bombs over a country over a large period, it was called that because it’s a technique where you try to cover an area with a dense carpet of bombs all at once

I know, it’s like Oprah giving away cars. But still, takes a special person to see that as an opportunity to scam them