Yeah that’s why I said I don’t really buy the excuse myself, its just the only thing I could think of that really even starts to make sense.

And even then its far-fetched as shit.

Like I said that’s only what I’ve heard, but I haven’t played the Gamez and I doubt its true even if it did fit.

I’ve heard its because of the games anti-corporate message.

But even as someone who blames their boomer-ass wintel admin coworkers for allowing AD to EEE its way into enterprise IT, I have a hard time buying that. That game was making too much money for that.

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Depends, the younger half that’s adjacent to gen alpha? Sure.

On the other side of that coin, I’m in my mid 20s. Not sure about the rest of the older members of gen-z, but my first experience with a computer was Classic Mac OS and Reader Rabbit.

I barely remember when we got the late PIII purple Compaq presario running XP when I was like 3/4. Playing red faction, and shit my brother showed me on new grounds. I remember my mom showing me how to pirate sabbath using Morpheus. Filling the machine up with useless IE toolbars.

Early YouTube was fucking sweet in the worst way possible, though at first I had to sneak it because that was considered a not-for-kids site at the time.

No one my age really touched a smartphone til like middle/highschool. By then we where all already playing halo:CE and early releases of MC on the win 7 machines in the lab.

I personally had already had basic Photoshop/paint.net and scripting/programming skills trying to make shit for Minecraft (and Roblox before that.)

Granted I also might be a bad example because I ended up working in IT, have written software to some capacity since I was 12, collect vintage machines, and keep a server rack as a pet. Furthermore, the vast majority of my daily computing happens within a collection of virtual machines running Debian.

Personally my solution to the problem was building a Linux Mint machine for my niece and her stepbrothers. Took them a bit to figure things out, but it seems to be going well.

Also bonus ageing juice for all you geezers out there:

Gen-z will technically be entering its thirties soon :P

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I don’t argue with people to justify my actions, silly goose, I do it to satisfy my neurotic compulsion to tell dipshits why they’re wrong. Because unlike you, I know my faults. <3

Look if you’re just going to take single lines from a multi-paragraph reply out of context to fuel your bad faith arguments, you can go bite one.

The fact that you repeatedly call me a leech is very telling. It says to us that you’re interested in finding excuses to put strangers in a box so you can feel better about yourself.

Maybe go out and find something about yourself to actually like, instead of this upstanding citizen bullshit, because its a very thin veneer.

Just say you’re ok with stifling creative people because you don’t believe the deserve to live off of their hard work.

Just admit you’re too dense to see the difference between pirating a piece of media owned by a corporation who’s no longer giving money to the artists for said creation, and a smaller artist/group of artists who survive directly off of their work.

But yeah tell me more about how the indie dev who spends hundreds a month on tiny band camp artists doesn’t give a shit about creative because I refuse to pay $40 for flacs of a classic rock album when indie artists can do the same thing for $8. Despite the $8 purchase actually going to artists and not record label execs/shareholders.

Furthermore, you growing fruit takes resources and time. I can make thousands of copies of a file in a single keystroke. Again, the more apt metaphor would be me buying fruit, using that to grow my own, and giving that away. Even then its not exact.

Its not a minute detail lmao, it throws the entire argument. In one instance you’re stealing a physical good. In another you’re making a one-to-one copy of a piece of information. Information that exists on MY physical storage medium, using MY bits that I physically own.

You specifically chose that metaphor knowing this. Don’t try and gaslight me with that shit.

Just because you’re wrong doesn’t mean you have to argue in bad faith, sweety. <3

This hypothetical is a false equivalence as fruit is a physical good. Digital media can be copied ad nauseum without the owner losing access to their copy.

When someone steals your fruit, its not just that they have fruit and you didn’t get money, its that you no longer have any of your fruit.

A better metaphor is if someone bought your fruit, buried the seeds, grew their own plum tree, and started giving away the fruit that they grew.

Also call it being afraid, but I don’t have shame in being security conscious. Not that I run games outside of a controlled VM, but anyone who would run a cracked exe that uses a closed source implementation is fucking asking for it. Only software crack I’ve ever trusted was massgrave for activating windows/office.

So long as everyone who wants to play a game can purchase it used, its functionally no different than piracy. Except someone who did no work makes money off of it.

If a game can’t be easily legally obtained, if at all, its a pretty common belief that piracy is justified in the name of preservation.

The only exceptions to this are new releases which haven’t reached critical mass, and smaller releases which will never reach any sort of mass following.

The former is especially important when you realize that two months post-launch of a new piece of media, the company has made back the artist saleries, and everything after that is just bonus for the useless vultures upstairs.

I say this as someone who buys their games because they don’t trust cracked executables.

Granted I have a collection of complete romsets, but I also have three bookshelves of physical games from the Nintendo Switch all the way back to the 2600 (even have a coupla pong consoles.)

Between all that, the hundreds/thousands I’ve spent on band camp, and the monthly donations to patron creators, free software projects, and the internet archive? Yeah I must be a freeloader lmao. There’s a million reasons piracy is ethically correct. Copyright needs to fucking die.

You want bottom tier leeches? Go look to the capitalist owning class that tried to redefine sharing as piracy in the first place.

So was the install I made a copy of and gave to a friend. Either way the publisher makes the same amount.

Sure there might be a limited number of used copies, but when you’re talking about a mass manufactured product with limited demand like a random used game, then yeah, might as well be unlimited. How many used copies of GTA V or Skyrim out there do you think there are? Answer: far more than there are people looking to buy them, and each one of those copies can be sold an infinite amount of times.

The only games that are so rare that this matters are either so expensive or so hard to come by that everyone is okay with pirating them anyways because there’s no reasonable way to obtain them, and they’re all usually out of print any who.

Unless “piracy” is your alternative to buying a brand new copy at launch, I don’t wanna hear it.

If GameStop can make bank re-selling used games without giving back a cent to the developer, how is doing the same for free, without taking up competitive retail space any worse?

Legitamate and ethical are two different things. Seedboxes, VPN subscriptions, recreational psychedelics, DIY gender-affirning HRT, etc…

Mechanical safeties where introduced to prevent accidental discharge when dropped. Glocks, and other modern handguns have other features to prevent this without manual intervention.

Its a viable alternative for me in that I don’t drink alchohol, and when I’m around people who are drinking I instead smoke weed.

Lotta people feel the exact opposite about those two drugs. Personally I can’t stand the feeling of having alchohol in my system.

What a terrible day to be literate.