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  • So, let me make sure I got this right. Biden lowered the ACA premiums not by forcing the insurance companies to charge a lower premium, but by giving those insurance companies and the people they represent tax credits and from allowing those who take advantage of the ACA to take less from their income tax.

    Yeah, this definitely represents the government option that he used to run on in 2020. Definitely helped a bunch of people who already couldn’t afford healthcare. Im sure this did alleviate some pressure, but it doesnt affect the majority of people and, these tax credits are set to expire so it’ll end up being a wash.








  • Yeah but those services tend to care a lot less then the payment processors but the I do see your point.

    For instance, it’s not as easy as you think to get a website pulled down, or to get a domain name restricted, mostly because they’re not paid for on a monthly basis, they’re paid for on a yearly basis, and sometimes they even have contracts for multi years.

    Different clouds support different things, that’s why sites like Parlour still exist despite the massive amount of animosity the administrators of that site face.

    Getting a hold of a global register to get them to do something about a domain name on their register, while possible, is not nearly as easy as getting hold of the payment processor.

    It seems to me that if payment processing was made to be less effective by this tactic, they would have to choose less effective tactics that sites could choose to ignore. You’re right that they don’t own the hardware, but for big companies like Valve, it would be a pretty trivial setup for them especially with companies out there like open cloud.



  • The irony of claiming I didn’t read a link that is paywalled is hilarious, especially considering that you didn’t read my comment very carefully, considering that I said she should be judged by the courts.

    Those parents are charged, which is what I said should happen to the social worker. And I didn’t move the goalpost, I pointed out that 58% of parents are charged based on this study that you clearly didn’t look at.

    Your lack of empathy is showing because you cannot possibly imagine the amount of pain that these parents are going through and the type of justice that they will need. Not only do they need to be made whole by her, they need to be made whole by the state. She was grossly negligent in forgetting a child in the car when there are multiple, multiple things that you can do in order to prevent that. Especially as somebody who is a state representative who of child safety. Forgive me for wanting to hold these people to a higher standard than you.

    I’m gonna follow the case enough to know that if she was charged, if she is charged, that’s good enough for me. As I said, this is a matter for the courts to decide, not to blokes on lemmy. We have a justice system in our society, and so, despite how shit it is, I want her to go through it, because that is how these parents will be made whole.

    Putting people in jail generally serves as a deterrent and you would know that if you’ve done any sort of research on prison punishment and the abolition of such. Generally putting people in prison or jail is to encourage people to not make the same mistakes, which I think is needed. If this person gets a slap on the wrist, then it’s showing that the state doesn’t actually care what happens to your children in state custody and others may potentially be more careless since they know they’re not gonna go to jail if they make such a mistake.

    Regardless, I think this person should be charged. The study I linked shows that there is a one in two chance that this person will be charged, or a 58% chance. And if she is charged, there’s a chance that she will go to prison, or jail, for gross negligence since the major function of her job is to ensure child’s safety and not ensuring that child’s safety is gross negligence.

    As far as the punishment this person will receive, it’ll be up to the judge and the jury to decide. I do know that if they don’t charge this person that I will be one of the first people out there protesting that decision.


  • Revenge and retribution are not the same thing. Retribution is getting justice so the person feels made more whole. Vengeance/revenge is destroying the actor who committed the action.

    We don’t have a society that rehabilitates other, we only have a system that jails people, and unfortunately for her, that is what I think should happen.

    Yes, I know that gross negligence has a legal definition, and I’m using it specifically in this case because a CPS worker negligently left a child in her hot car for hours while she went on personal errands. All she had to do was look in her rearview mirror to see the child. Put a sticky note on the fucking steering wheel. She could have done a number of things differently to ensure the child’s still alive.

    As for atoning for this person’s mistakes, they can atone from jail, where they can also serve out community service. Ultimately, this is for a court to decide which I think is the most appropriate as I don’t think we’ll see eye to eye on this one.

    For instance this would have made a significant difference

    In the report, NSC also issues recommendations for parents and caregivers including leaving a purse or cell phone in the backseat so they are reminded to check the back before leaving the vehicle.

    https://www.nsc.org/newsroom/just-21-states-protect-children-hot-cars

    You’re also wrong that parents aren’t often charged. According to this study, 58% of parents who leave their child in a hot car face charges after the fact.

    They also note authorities pursued criminal charges in 58% of cases.

    https://journalistsresource.org/health/child-dead-left-hot-car-research/#%3A~%3Atext=Researchers+analyzed+541+cases+of


  • I am just not sure tossing them in jail does anyone any good

    Mistakes do happen, but when mistakes happen, we don’t let somebody off the hook. There are multiple studies that confirm that humans need some amount of retribution so that they feel something was done to address the inappropriateness of the action. This is not just a mistake, a child died because of the ineptitude of this worker.

    The quality of people for this job is already significantly reduced due to the abusive situation they often have to work in, the extreme lack of benefits, and the extremely low pay. This person facing punishment isn’t going to reduce the amount of applicants for this position because those applicants aren’t applying because they like the job, they’re applying because they feel a higher call.

    Just because there should have been two people doesn’t mean you let the person that negligently killed a child off the hook. I can be angry at the state for not supplying enough resources for these cps workers, but I can also be angry at this particular person for allowing a child to die in a hot car. I failed to see, by the way, how that could be anything other than gross negligence.

    Furthermore, parents often have to deal with their child on a one-on-one scenario where this does happen to them, and it’s still not an excuse for that to happen, and those parents do get charged, and if they have other kids, CPS does get involved.

    So to recap, this worker was put in a situation that parents face all the time and negligingly forgot a child in a hot car. Even if it was not done maliciously, that does not excuse her actions, and she should face retribution for the consequences of her actions. And then you’re defending that we shouldn’t want retribution from this person because that might put people off from working in child protective services?

    I think your empathy may be blinding you here, comrade.


  • Nah, fuck this opinion. Parents are required to be good parents regardless of how they’re getting paid and somebody who has been entrusted to ensure the safety of a child regardless of how they’re getting paid should do so in a way that does not ensure their death. When your entire job is child healthcare, forgetting a child in a hot car is completely inappropriate. Not only should they be blackballed from this industry, but they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.