Modders make mods for free. Video creators publish free videos on sites like Youtube or Vimeo today without any revenue stream. Prior to that creators published their content for free on sites like ebaums, or albinoblacksheep, or on personal pages.

Humans want to share. If Youtube had never existed, people wouldn’t have suddenly stopped making videos to share, they should have just found another method of sharing or created their own alternative. The desire to create and share is innate to humanity; the concept of monetary compensation is not.

As for wanting everything to be free (I’m not who you were talking to but I’m responding anyway)… I mean, yeah kind of? Here’s my question: why should everything be paid? I think that’s a backwards mentality. People were sharing stories and art and other creations for no reason other than the love of sharing long before Youtube, and they will keep doing so after. Imo not every effort in life needs to be directly compensated. To me this is the same reason I will never pay for game mod: I want to support and encourage a modding community who mods because they love do it and they love sharing with community, not because they see a possible revenue stream.

Imo turning your hobbies into jobs or “side hustles” is one of the worst consequences of capitalism, and one we should push back against.

Every person is already paying for Youtube with their data. The ads are asking above and beyond.

It would be an entirely different story if Google wasn’t primarily first a data-mining company, but since they are, and since selling that data (or the results of using that data) in of the MAIN revenue streams for their business, it is disingenuous to act like Youtube is some free service that is being offered to us. It’s not; it’s a massive data-mining operation of incredible value as it offers not just demographic information but vastly more details on individual interests and what kind of things they are likely to actually click and interact with than the vast majority of other platforms and sites.

We have got to stop ignoring the data aspect of businesses like Youtube.

How exactly does blocking them amplify their voice, especially when loudly calling for others to do the same?

Guys please stop arguing with this disingenuous accelerationist. They clearly give zero fucks about actually making the world better or improving conditions for real people, they’re just here to cosplay revolutionary and support the conservative status quo.

Don’t engage with them, just block them.

Hey now that’s not fair; Tulsi will sell herself to anyone willing to pay, not just exclusively Russia!

I understand what you’re saying and I want to sympathize, but I feel like we’re so far outside the norm here that some of this falls a bit flat to me. Like we aren’t talking about being swayed by a wolf in sheep’s clothing here, Trump is a an entire pack of wolves loudly shouting “the wolves have arrived, fuck all you sheep!”

I think there was a point what you say rang true, but I can’t help but feel like we’re so off-course at this point that if you haven’t seen Trump for what he is yet it must be because you are WILLFULLY evading that reality.
I find it genuinely difficult to believe that anyone touting the “both sides are the same narrative” still, today, about Trump, can possibly truly believe that. I genuinely think you are only hearing from the mouths of charlatans, foreign agents, intentional accelerationists, and the absolute most genuinely ignorant of people. Maybe I’m jaded, but the alternative is legitimately incomprehensible to me at this point.

…with cookies and hearty “Well done, lads”?

I don’t think we should encourage it, but frankly I also don’t think it’s the apocalyptic moral event others seem to either. Humanity fucked outside, in relative public for centuries and I’m pretty sure not every single child of that era was forever traumatized by it.

Oh god, imagine midroll ads on Pornhub… “Oh yeah baby, lick that wet- [Overly loud and obnoxious Adam & Eve ad starts playing]”

BREAKING NEWS: COMPLAINING BAG OF LIES COMPLAINS AND LIES, MORE AT 11.

Fair and I agree. I should have stated it in the past tense because what I really meant is exactly what you stated - that I wouldn’t have brought the adblock to Youtube had they not gone nuclear assault in their ad approach and made the choice unreasonable, now I am unwilling to engage with them honestly without ENORMOUS, HERUCLEAN efforts towards rehabilitation on their part.

Cheers.

I used to have a bagel guillotine. Sometimes it would catch and you’ll have to take a second go at it, but you know what? It always made it through in the end.

Hopefully somebody who actually makes monetized Youtube videos will join the conversation to answer that one, as I’m not certain. I’m a pretty active Youtube watcher and fairly savvy on the culture, so from what I’ve gleaned I believe there is some control given to creators but I believe it is somewhat limited. For example if you watch the Sorted channel (a UK-based food channel) with ads on, they seem to pretty consistently happen at small scene transitions, which leads me to believe the Sorted team is doing their part to strategically place them.

They never said the guillotine wouldn’t be a permanent fixture.

Honestly, Pornhub has the infrastructure to take on Youtube, if they wanted. If they just cloned the site, sans content, and called it Videohub, there would immediately be a real contender in the marketplace.

If they kept the ads to 10-15 seconds at the start of a video and didn’t interrupt my videos for them, I would never use an adblock on Youtube (i’ll even give them an allowance for one 10 second ad interruption for every hour in the case of super long videos). But for as long as they keep trying to squeeze every goddamn penny out of me that they can, I will fight back and do everything in my power to prevent them from being allowed even a single ad impression off me.

I’m not unreasonable, but I refuse to accept unreasonable offers.

Ah yes, “my opinion is infallible and I’m righteous for screaming it from the rooftops, but your opposing opinion is ignorant and worthy of dismissal!”

Red flag indeed, friend.

This is my last comment here

Good. Us “SJWs” won’t miss you at all.

To a degree they do. Businesses have the right to refuse service, but not if doing so appears to be targeting somebody for discriminatory reasons. Since the impetus here seems to be the kiss between two men, if they aren’t asking opposite-sex couples who engage in the same to leave then this actually is not a legal request. There’s some context here that is impossible to know, so frankly I’m not really keen to make a clear determination one way or the other personally, but I still wanted to point out that it’s not really automatically as simple as “the business asked them to leave.”

Even a full-on gay orgy in the dead center of the restaurant is no excuse for violence.

But beyond that, people who are bothered by PDA are so fucking lame. You really want a sterile, sexless world devoid of passion and expressions of love? I think that sounds so fucking miserable