The sea should be marked as C considering that’s what you’ll discover when you get deep into it.

I don’t think you become the best tech CEO in the world by having a healthy approach to work. He is just wired differently, some people are just all about work.

A few days ago it was a refreshing 8° in Trondheim/Norway, now it’s 22°.

It’s just a research paper, not a product. It’s about discovering and learning new possible methods and applications.

Never would have guessed I would ever see Devon Larratt on Lemmy

You could always ask someone to vouch for you. It could also be that you have open communities and closed communities. So you would build up trust in an open community before being trusted by someone to be allowed to interact with the closed communities. Open communities could be communities less interesting/harder for the bots to spam and closed communities could be the high risk ones, such as news and politics.

Would this greatly reduce the user friendliness of the site? Yes. But it would be an option if bots turn into a serious problem.

I haven’t really thought through the details and I’m not sure how well it would work for a decentralised network though. Would each instance run their own trust tree, or would trusted instances share a single trust database 🤷‍♂️

A chain/tree of trust. If a particular parent node has trusted a lot of users that proves to be malicious bots, you break the chain of trust by removing the parent node. Orphaned real users would then need to find a new account that is willing to trust them, while the bots are left out hanging.

Not sure how well it would work on federated platforms though.

They are probably the most complex machines ever created by humanity though, and requires expertise across the whole world to build. Even if they had blueprints, it would take years just to get the manufacturing right.

I got a table and some chairs from Torbjørn Afdal, Darby series that’s designed in the 1960s with Brazilian Rosewood. It’s not too expensive at ~2000€ and it’s a nice, well built table, and extendable for when you host an event, but having to worry about damaging the table vs some IKEA table you don’t really care about makes me prefer cheap furniture just for the ease of mind.

My father has reached an age where money means very little to him and his interest in “proper” furniture has skyrocketed. He will go out and buy a simple table for $3k-5k and tell me how the same model was bought for the American embassy in year x, or send me links to matching chairs by designer y.

I’ve yet to see a piece of furniture that’s worth twice the price of what you can find on IKEA. A table needs to be water/stain resistant and that’s about that. /rant

That’s what PieFed changes though. You can still track how someone votes

You need a way to identify which profile is tied to the vote profile so that you can deal with the root account.

Admins need a way to track votes to detect abuse/bots though. And anyone can be an admin if they set up an instance, so votes will still be public.

Don’t get high on your own supply, as the saying goes.

Vote manipulation

Hmm, I can understand how someone can be concerned about that, but personally I find it too theoretical and unlikely to matter.

Any company wanting to harvest data from the fediverse would likely just create their own instance to easily copy the databases from every major instance, private voting wouldn’t help against that. I would also say that your comment would be a thousand times more damning than upvoting every comment/post critical of Musk.

If you only lurk, you will stay anonymous as long as you use an anonymous username. If you comment, you are way more likely to “leak” your opinion through comments anyway.

But those are just my thoughts, I might be way off base and lack the full range of perspectives.

To me it feels like comments are what you can actually stand behind publicly, while votes also show what you think privately. And not everyone is willing to stand behind all of their opinions publicly, often for fear of backlash or harassment.

I guess I’m just of the opinion that if someone has that concern, they should rethink how they use social platforms and maybe look into creating a more anonymous profile that suits their need better.

But now we are just down to differing opinions, which is all fine to have, I won’t claim my thoughts are the best one.

I have felt the want to have a more anonymous profile from time to time since being an admin means I need to avoid controversial topics, but it isn’t any more difficult than simply not engaging with it.

Votes doesn’t break the anonymity is my point. You achieve anonymity by using a fake name and not sharing too much personal information in your comments. No amount of voting will reveal that fj4j2l32@instance.com is Jonathan Brown from Newcastle.

I’m surprised most people are against public votes. Most people already seem to have an anonymous account via some weird username not connected to their real identity already. What difference does it make that votes can be viewed, other than for transparency during discussion?

Maybe I’m the odd one out that uses my real name on the Internet and generally try to behave/vote the same as I would in person, but it seems weird wanting a hybrid account that’s private (votes), yet not private (comments).

It’s against the CoC of programming.dev and we have issued warnings to abusers before. Last warning given for that was 13 days ago and was spotted by a normal user.