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  • Semjaza@lemmynsfw.comtomemes@lemmy.worldBig if true
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    6 days ago

    Yes. The Second World War had a deathtoll about 60 times higher. (.3 is much more than I gave it credit for.)

    Korean War probably more than 3 million.

    Returning to smaller scale war is not an end of war. Nor even close to ending wars. Imperialism causes wider ranging wars is all, as whole networks of military apparatus are mobilised. Modern empires are more nebulous.

    Edit: also, your WW2 figure is including civilians and acts of genocide. I think your Vietnamese figure is combatants only.


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    Yes, the Korean war was the biggest with soldiers from dozens of countries dying in action, with a localised theatre.

    But how many of those civil wars were hot parts of the Cold War? Can we not lump them into a single Cold War total?

    The death toll of the world wars is huge, but equally the death tolls of the strife across Saharan and Central Africa and the Middle East isn’t insignificant. Do we just leave it off the record because the combatants are only our proxies? Fighting with our guns, for our benefit, rather than a war on land we’ve yet to relinquish control over?

    Edit: though I’ve gone on a massive tangent. My original point that I let my mind forget and spout off on a tangent, was that there have been lots of wars with coalitions of allies feeding arms to the sides, as we now see in Ukraine in the intervening 70 years. Just less close to home.










  • You seem to have mistaken not materially different to Palestinians as equal to equivalent.

    And that I didn’t talk about the bad stuff done by Biden and Obama, and the Bushes, and (the) Clinton(s).

    Maybe if the Democratic party was more willing to make more materialistic changes we wouldn’t’ve had first Trump, let alone Trump 2. It is naive to hope that, and things for American sexual and ethnic minorities would be, generally, better under democrats. But they’re a holding pattern until the Republicans get in, and Dems don’t have people’s backs.

    But my original point was that if you’re so blinkered to not even be able to understand why progressives and anti-imperialist would sit out of the 2024 election, you’re not going to be able to talk them round to vote for Your Guy™ if there is an election again in the future.

    Rather than understand a dissenting point of view, you dismiss and villify people you should be trying to work with and understand.

    Get friendly with Black Bloc and maybe we can all make things better for everyone at home and in the Middle East.



  • Biden wasn’t able to hold back the tide ethnic cleansing and war crimes the IDF has inflicted on the Palestinians. It is very unlikely that a Harris win would have reigned in the killings, bombings, and all that have taken place since the election.

    If you can’t understand why people would abstain from supporting one of two genocide supporting candidates who had shown no interest in making things better, you’re just as much to blame for the current US admin as those who did not vote.