Trump’s team has been preparing for a loss for at least weeks now. Luckily it’s so obvious that, especially with the precedent of the last coup, it’s not going to take anyone by surprise. As a Canadian: please get out and vote, give Harris the substantial victory your country needs, and rub it in Trump’s face so hard it’s breaks through the layers of spray tan.

P.S. OP, I can understand how you feel. Even as a Canadian I’m going to be so glad to get past tomorrow + the time it takes to confirm a victor. Issues like the environment, Ukraine/Russia, and Israel/Gaza affect us all.

Downvote if you want, they aren’t the same. There are big differences between this brief statement and the lead-up to J6, and takes like this only fuel the conservative assertion that “woke Liberals” will blow anything out of proportion. You can believe what you want, but I’m not going to resort to unfounded “but he could be” claims given how many valid criticisms are available. I’ll stick to the things he’s actually said about women’s rights, the environment, locking up opponents, wanting to be a dictator…

The long J6 speech was held right in front of the Capitol where he said some version of “we need to fight” so many times that legal experts say it’s obvious, in an evidence-applicable-to-court way, that he was inciting. It was preceded by many day’s worth of rhetoric, and he was telling others to do his dirty work. It’s the basis for an incredibly serious lawsuit.

The “hit back” conversation was like two lines in one anecdote about verbal sparring, and in context clearly wasn’t him asking if it was his turn to punch Michelle Obama. He also never spent days calling for anything along the lines of “You folks need to hit Michelle Obama” the way he called for them to fight at the Capitol. No one is going to make a lawsuit about those quotes.

I really don’t like the various outlets’ coverage of this story or how quick people are to interpret this as a violent threat. I am VERY skeptical that he meant physically hitting Michelle Obama, and I think the only way to make it sound that way is to clip the quote. When he says, “She hit me the other day” and “She said that about me, I can’t hit back?” he’s obviously not talking physically and you wouldn’t think that if it was Harris saying it.

TONS of legitimate exist reasons to hate Trump and tear him apart (Huffpost: “This just in, user GrymEdm threatens to ‘tear Trump apart’. Is he advocating assault?”). We don’t need to grasp at straws when there are rock-solid criticisms of Trump. If it’s not right for the other side to take things out of context and spin them, then it’s not ok for us. How about we stay focused on Trump being a democracy-destroying, racist, lying convicted felon/sex offender (with ample proof) and not try to force this quote into something it probably isn’t.

Edit: People comparing the J6 incitement/maintaining deniability need to look up how serious and extended the lead up to J6 was. It was many days worth of violent rhetoric capped by a long speech where he said “peaceful” once and called for variations of “fighting” 20 times. His J6 incitement is the basis of a very serious and (according to experts in the linked article) indefensible lawsuit. No one is taking him to court because of the quotes in OP’s article. Lemmy, you don’t need to push this to make reasons to justifiably despise him.

"It’s easy for her to talk, sitting far from where the death scenes take place, but put a gun in her hand, and let her go fight, and she’ll say, ‘No thanks!’” This from a guy who discusses deploying troops in America against Americans, yet dodged the Vietnam draft with fake medical issues.

What’s a can opener? Kind of NSFW - like not really, but if someone walks in on you watching you’ll have some explaining to do.

Wouldn’t it be nice to be the little spoon once in a while?

Get either a piercing weapon to exploit weak points or a bludgeoning weapon to transmit force through the plate, because she’s clearly here to do battle. Dinner can come AFTER I’ve defended my honor.

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The only thing he he should be allowed to do is retake whatever high-school civics course he failed that covers how laws protect anonymous and uncoerced voting.

Because of his billionaire background, he already knows where he can grab them to keep them close at hand. He’s been practising for this policy with several reluctant women over the years.

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If Christian parents were really concerned about their child’s safety they’d let them go to library book readings and keep them away from church groups and camps.

Looking at that 2nd point: it’s so odd that Trump’s Republicans include hardcore Netanyahu-style Zionists AND unrepentant antisemites. It’s like they want to cover all possible approaches to the wrong side of history.

As to the meat of the story, Legal Eagle made a video about the legality of the Musk lottery. It seems pretty clearly forbidden, but we’ve been down this road with rich Conservatives many times before…

No worries friend.

Dammit, Lemmy says you beat me to the joke by literally 30 seconds. Which is the time I took to look up this:

Great minds think alike.

“I was shown the satellite pictures. I was like, ‘Wow that’s a lot of water. So much water. I know, I grew up around the best water.’ Let me tell you - it’s not even American water. American water is beautiful and pure and none of it comes from the floating trash heaps outside our borders. That water hurricane came to America illegally and it’s killing people’s cats and dogs. Biden let the water in - I wouldn’t have let the water in. It’s soaking couches in multiple states - I showed Vance the photos and he started crying. Now those tears are American water.”

Edit: While I stand by what I say below about the sentiments being genuine, when actually reading top comments across boards - in most threads the top comments are pretty civil and reasonable. I was wrong.

I believe the meme and comments actually reflect the views of the people posting them. Perhaps I’m wrong, but the sentiments come across as very genuine and so I don’t think it’s accurate to dismiss them as “just joking”. I also picked it because I remembered it and so it was faster than trawling through other threads for examples.

I really wish the USA was just seeing the end of a double-term Bernie presidency. I’m not dumb enough to pretend that it would have all been roses and prosperity (especially with the pandemic), but missing the setbacks of that 1st Trump presidency alone would have been pretty great. I -think- I’d prefer a younger president, but if an older president had to be chosen then Bernie seems articulate and compassionate.

Edit: I’m adjusting my stance because while I can find abuse in many threads most of the time it WASN’T in the top comments. Seeing what actually makes it to the top proves I was wrong and I won’t cherry-pick comments further down to argue I’m “right”. “Vote bullying” exists so I’m not deleting, but when I looked for other examples I found that most of the time upvotes are for reasonable folks.

I’ll give one high-ish profile example that illustrates what I’m talking about: /c/politicalmemes has nearly 6k users, which is fairly big for Lemmy. In the last 6 months, the #3 top post with 1.91k upvotes is about how not voting because you feel there’s no good choice means Republicans win and not seeing that means “you have a problem”. The top comment in that post is about how people saying Biden isn’t doing enough are propagandists. The #3 top comment literally tells dissenters to “do a lot more shutting the fuck up”.

As I’ve said from the beginning: it’s not universal, but it shows up regularly enough to make me appreciate Bernie’s approach.

I feel you. I completely agreed until sometime in spring, when Sen. Sanders first posted an argument very similar to OP’s linked article. One of the major reasons I switched stances was environmental damage and global warming which is threatening horrible suffering for hundreds of millions at least. If for no other reason than that Trump must lose. Afterwards those who stand for ethics and proportional response can try to drag the Western leaders out of complicity with war crimes. Never stop criticizing such unethical and illegal policies, but if you’re American please vote Democrat.