Trump’s backers, and especially Peter Thiel, whom JD Vance is an avatar for (Thiel put forward Vance as VP to Trump, and had sponsored Vance’s entire political career, which is only two years old), all read Curtis Yarvin.

Yarvin is Silicon Valley’s chosen “philosopher” - he advocates for the end of democracy and a return to monarchy, with billionaires as royalty and monarchs.

The article makes it clear that the Chinese botnet is targeting Microsoft azure accounts, usually for large organizations involved with governments, infrastructure, legal professionals, science and technology.

It also states that the attacks can be disinfected by regularly restarting your router, but that this doesn’t prevent reinfection later.

The US intelligence services also says you should regularly restart your phone.

This is Microsoft’s posting about it which other news sources are quoting from: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/blog/2024/10/31/chinese-threat-actor-storm-0940-uses-credentials-from-password-spray-attacks-from-a-covert-network/

It has a recommendations section which suggests “credential hygiene” and strong passwords help.

He’s got issues.

I figure they need Trump to also do a bunch of crimes when he’s in office before they pull the plug on him… That way he can blamed whilst they keep all the power.

The fridge is a big pump, it needs to circulate… It’s when it sits idle for too long that it risks death!

Vance is a bigger problem, he’s a billionaire sponsored corporate entity and he’s going to end up President.

Thiel replaced Epstein on the board of Carbyne, Mossad’s research and development company.

Vance is a dubious corporate character. Beware.

Yeah, if Vance gets in he’s gonna be the most corporate candidate ever.

I went on YouTube today looking for a comparison of the two platforms of the respective candidates and there’s very little out there.

No, the left aren’t in any way responsible for the right’s fascism, but understanding the role they/we have played in the Trumpist manufacture of a kind of “emotional pornography” that gets used in their propaganda narrative for their fascist outlook, might help in better responding to it, and avoiding the further adoption of that role in the cycle of its production.

Having an emotional role, a part you fall into playing in something, isn’t quite the same as being responsible for it. Because this role just comes naturally for a lot of people.

But yeah, thanks you for clarifying your purpose, the right will try regardless, so I agree with what your purpose, and that the left is not responsible for the right, even if the right will sometimes use the left’s outrage as a cog in their propaganda machine.

Yes, that feeling about having said Pow Wow, and being called out on it in the most gentle and polite manner, must he a very small version of the inciting incident many MAGA types probably went through, or feel they went through.

Abd where you were self aware enough to reel in that indignant feeling of being corrected, they can’t. They didn’t have that, for whatever reason.

It may have been knee jerk, it may have been poor cultural timing, or part of a group looking to exclude them for any reason, it may have been part of their divorce, or maybe they just weren’t politically aware enough to deal and cope with being called out. Or maybe they were just a bit slow. But whatever it is, they’re stuck there and so are gonna try to alter society to what they said, rather than admit they were out of line, or out of date with current standards of propriety.

Interestingly enough Thomas Piketty the Marxist theorist who wrote Capital in the Twenty First century, predicted that as the wealth gap got larger society would return to Victorian era ideas around social classes, the idea of not marrying below your station, and of not fraternizing with commoners or the poor, or bwong uncouth like them.

I don’t know if this might be part of that, but it seems you understand some of the emotional aspects of gow someone slips into the MAGA mindset. The sense of betrayal they must feel.

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I would argue that if your identity is built largely on being disrespectful of certain groups of people and looking down upon them, your identity doesn’t really deserve to exist.

But they do exist, and they’re winning the average of polls right now, by 0.4%. They’re in place to win the election. That’s the problem, they do exist. It’s not about that, it’s about why they exist.

If you’re still “arguing” something, then I don’t think you get what I’m saying. There’s not a rational explanation. It’s emotional. They’re operating on emotional paradigms and responses.

Someone wearing a MAGA cap hence, can’t be proof cancel culture still exists. You explained peoples reaction to the hat, as cancel culture; the shame the wearer gets, the looks, how uncomfortable that must be - but you didn’t explain why the MAGA person still wears the hat!

They’ve not been cancelled - they’re trying to be. They want that level of attention.

They’re wearing the hat to “flaunt the law”. They’re wearing it as a fuck you, I’m part of the club that I think is cool, and we’re on Trump’s side and they’ll all defend anything I do in this hat so you better watch out. It’s the Christian side, the family side, the white side, the side that sticks together and are sick of woke, left, moralists. “Tell me I’m wrong, so I can tell you I don’t care what you think!” That’s their mindset.

They’re people who will use the N word if you discuss ethics and morality with them too long. Because that would show you they don’t care about that stuff, it hurt when it got pinned on them (before they found MAGA). They didn’t like the shame, so now they bask in it, and they think they’re good and true and right for doing so. Because no one has a right to judge them (except maybe Trump).

That’s not cancel culture working.

They want the intolerance you want to be shown to them. They’re celebrating that Biden called them garbage, they see it a chance for a response, and as proof of their emotional position.That: “See! The left were the bad guys all along, they are the moralist bullies we said they were. Mean to us for no good reasons.” That’s their premise.

Thanks I’ll check it out!

I don’t think cancel culture is a thing. You literally can’t cancel anyone in this day and age. Ben Shapiro, Hulk Hogan, Jordan Peterson, Trump, Elon Musk, none of these people who “got cancelled” ever suffered anything other than an opportunity to get their names out there. The controversy is the point, they got clicks out of it. So there’s that. Cancelling isn’t a thing. It just gets you views.

…that usurps the politics of shame, and it’s a very recent change. It now functions as a signal amplifier and makes things into a constant moralization machine. A machine that creates judgementalness. Like, an unnatural and exhaustive amount of judgementalness which starts to come off as fragility. Frailty, weakness, “victim culture” whatever you want to call it. It’s a space ripe for trolls who want more views. Like there’s a reason Matt Walsh can make millions from the “documentaries” he makes.

Anyways, I don’t have a coherent answer for you. I’ve come to the conclusions I have, seen what I’ve seen and tried to explain it - it’s all very new to me. I realized whilst trying to explain the garbage truck thing on here today.

…that there’s two narratives on Trump the garbage man, and that they don’t connect, and only one explains Trump’s strange behaviours, appearances, and strategies.

Some of the credit for me seeing this, goes to monitoring right wing spaces, and videos like this one from ShoeOnHead - who says she’s a progressive leftist, but essentially supports and explains the positions of young right wing men.

…and that probably ties into part of it, gender, race, class, ethnicity. These things are close to people’s emotions. To their emotional identities.

I don’t think I’m giving a good explanation here because I’m still figuring out how to explain it. But it has to do with

1. the digital landscape changing the function and profitablity of the politics of shame (Jordan Peterson brags about it this way “I’ve figured out how to monetize the Social Justice Warriors”).

2. The moralization and judgemental landscape this creates being ripe for more trolling.

3. Identities being core to what emotionally drives people’s responses. Whether that’s fragile white masculinity, or Black Lives Mattering, or Trans rights.

4. An exploitative fascist like Trump coming along who understands PR.

All of this coming together at once creates a digital and emotional landscape that can be manicured by fascists in a way that may get them into office.

Yeah, and I’m like not glad we’re seeing the same thing here… And I think you’re gonna cop some more downvotes too. The point I want to make to others is - we’re not pointing this out to attack anyone or because we want this perspective to be true. I don’t know about you, but I’d prefer to be wrong here.

I’d prefer if everyone was rational and emotions just didn’t come into it… But they do!.. And I don’t have an answer for that other than trying to get people to see they do. To see that’s a huge driving factor for a lot of people.

People who get to vote! People who will be voting! You only have to see the emotional logic of what’s been going on once! Then you’ll start to recognize the landscape when someone say Trump voters are so stupid or How did our country get to this point… Because I see how, now that I see the emotional journey some Trump followers have fallen into.

…and that’s not to say all of them. Because I don’t think this is true for people like Steve Banon, or Kevin Roberts (head of Project 2025), or Stephen Miller, or even Elon Musk. But for some of his followers - very low level people, this has totally been the journey they’ve been on, the emotional narrative that’s become locked in hard for them.

It’s gonna take vision and empathy, and humor to mount any sort of response or gentle reversing of it. To get any sort of deprogramming done… And that climate is a long long LONG way down the road, and may never come!

So this chapter of America’s politics becomes another solidifying chapter in the mainstream two party system.

He’s got plenty of credit with them to burn, and if he burns it right, they like him more.

Like when people have plastered their vehicles with your name, and they follow you from place to place in convoys flying flags like something out of a mad max movie? You can call them whatever you want and get a way with it a bunch of times without any consequences what so ever.

I think Trump has been such an emotional white knight in shining armor for them, that they don’t actually believe he could be a risk to democracy, national security, or the global world order that has American military power as the basis of its stability.

He gives his supporters, humor, a safe space, a big smile, and unflinchingly accepts their moral short comings… So they do the same for him in return.

It would be smart to put conventional explosives in, just enough to make salvage more difficult (and to prove they’re bot making dud systems).

I dislike it too, greatly. I just wrote more about it here… And it’s upset me to be realizing this so late in the game, when there’s so little chance of changing anything.

I try to explain why they’re like this here.