Is this thread still active?

Shouldn’t we be seeing a character on the red board being flipped down?

Because their plan at the time was to allow (or assist) him to be propped up under the belief Clinton would then be a shoo-in. Which is a completely moronic strategy because if you lose you’re absolutely fucked.

They probably never want to actually keep him from being a candidate because it means their candidates just need to meet the barest of minimums to be viable.

You clearly demonstrated that you didn’t actually read what I wrote and made knee-jerk reaction, then think I’m the one not reading?

You’re ignoring that Dems are using the same tactics you certainly bitched about Republicans doing then say others are ignoring reality and acting in bad faith?

Guess who never said not to vote democrat?

What are you smoking?

If you think it’s wrong for Dems to use the same tactics as Republicans then what the fuck are you bitching about?

You are defending this specific issue. See? Clueless.

https://youtu.be/CPRvc2UMeMI?feature=shared

Relevant part at 5:15 but it’s all on point. There’s a better version somewhere but this was the top hit…

I’m guessing you saw someone else post that and thought it sounded clever so you’d reuse it the first chance you got?

Because it’s completely irrelevant here…

Worry 1:Republicans are fascists that use manipulative techniques on their base. Worry 2: Democratic leaders just used a similar technique Republicans used against Biden and Obama.

I asked if they agreed with it first. Nothing I said is remotely both-sidesism - that Democratic leaders are using a tactic that I guarantee you got mad at Republicans for using is exactly the thing someone against both-sidesism should call them out for.

To point out that Dems slide right then defend a specific action where they continue to slide right seems awfully disingenuous - given you otherwise have no idea what anyone is saying it’s more likely you have no idea what’s going on.

Did you agree with this the last several times it came up? Did you upvote it on Lemmy?

Sorry. You’re right. That’s the kind of thing I should be worried about rather than pointing out the systemic problem that means we lose a little bit of our rights every year.

In the future I will be sure to make sure my tone and format are more agreeable to you, so you can ignore the content in a more creative way.

No. They are promising to not do worse, while offering nothing better. Exactly the game that people constantly bitch about the Democrats playing all the time - ratchet and pawl.

In fact this is barely different than the shit Republicans pull with Hunter Biden’s laptop.

What Melania thinks about the rioters has no bearing on anything, and we already know what Trump says about it because he constantly mouths off. Just like what Hunter Biden does has no bearing on Joe Biden as president and we can can find out about Joe Biden’s policies and opinions directly from him.

While everyone should be calling out Republicans for their continued attempts to overthrow the government, Democrats have to at some point actually offer to do something to fix the problem.

As it stands now, Dems have no reason to address the core problem because as long as Trump is in the picture all they need to say is they’re notasbadasTrump. And when Trump is out of the picture you can bet they’ll prop up the next guy so they can say they’re not as bad as them.

If voters don’t call out that nonsense, especially in blatantly obvious cases like this, it’s not going to change.

Yes. That’s how threads work…

Awww. Wooks wike some people want to continue a two party system where one party constantly destroys stuff and the other party just promises not to make it worse while never actually fixing anything.

This is ancient fucking news. We knew Trump wouldn’t call the traitors traitors the day it happened…

The convention is one of the few places where you can safely explain why people should vote for you, instead of against the other guy, and it’s telling when they don’t take that opportunity…

“Ask not what we can do for your country… just that we won’t do a poorly as the other guy.” -DNC

OCs comment is basically “All the politicians lied to them so it’s totally understandable that they won’t trust Democrats… but blindly follow Republicans”

If any of that was true, rural people would dislike all politicians and industry shills, and vote against them. Not consistently favor the ones who screw them more.

It’s great that some of them finally came to their senses and maybe will drag others with them, but that doesn’t make it acceptable to have doggedly held immoral stances that hurt others in the first place.

From the article: “TRMP”

Wake up babe. A new tetragrammaton just dropped.

Ok. But should you never put citrus in your garbage disposal because it summons the pipe demon, or are you supposed to put citrus in your garbage disposal because it repels the pipe demon?