• LostMyRedditLogin@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Why would you need to do this if your cause and actions are just? What are they trying to hide? I hope more people see this and understand Israel is morally bankrupt.

    • Szymon@lemmy.ca
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      1 year ago

      You need to do this if your plan is to exterminate the Palestinians and move onto their land for your own purposes.

      • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Not to sound like an invasion apologist, but I’d imagine they want to limit the ability for IEDs to be remotely detonated.

        • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Israel could have broken the back of Hamas by simply helping the Palestinian people develop a bit of infrastructure and economy. If the Palestinians have something worth losing, Hamas has no power. Hamas is as powerful as it is because of Israels policies over the last 20 years.

          • V17@kbin.social
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            1 year ago

            And Hamas could have built Gazans an OK place to live in if they used the literally billions of dollars of foreign money for investments instead of for weapons and tunnels. Didn’t happen either.

            • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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              1 year ago

              With what economy?

              Israel is a first world nation with a high performance technocratic economy. What does Palestine have to work with?

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                1 year ago

                We’re again talking about what should have been done, and my point is that it’s a pointless exercise, but if you really can’t see any ways to build a functioning economy with literally billions of free money, then let’s continue the exercise: about half of Palestinians used to have permits to work in Israel before Hamas fucked them over by attacking Israel. In the recent years the number of Israeli work permits has been increasing again, unfortunately Hamas decided to fuck them over again. So even if they had a small economy of their own, there was a way to work and bring money to then spend in Gaza.

                But I find it really hard to believe you couldn’t imagine a dozen things more useful for Gazans than things to wage war against Israel that ultimately only ever made their situation worse.

                Another episode of “what should have been done” is that while with humanitarian aid it’s not really possible, we never should have sent Gaza any development money without any conditions based on outcomes of their usage. But as with the above, what’s done is done.

                • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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                  1 year ago

                  Ok, well, right now, Israel is a first world nation with a high performance technocratic economy and Palestine is rubble being ground into dust. Israel has the privilege to do better.

                  • V17@kbin.social
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                    1 year ago

                    I’m not sure what else they’re supposed to do. After a terrorist attack like this one, I don’t really see any other option that would realistically be accepted by the government and the population other than attempting to wipe out Hamas completely. Israel is risking many lives of Israeli soldiers in order to reduce Palestinian civilian casualties by deciding to do a terribly difficult ground invasion instead of levelling Gaza to rubble, Grozny style. I don’t blame them for trying to make the situation at least a bit easier by blocking communication of all things.

    • foofiepie@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      It is normal to disrupt and jam all communication ahead of an invasion.

      IEDs, tactical comms etc.

        • Guydht@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Can nobody here think like a military just for one second and understand that they don’t care about spread of information? That information will be leaked after the blackouts are over, nothing can change that. That blackout is purely so that Hamas would lose their communication capabilities. It’s a classic proven war tactic and a totally legit one.