• Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee
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      17 days ago

      Yeah, 2000 was really the jumping off point that put us on this timeline. The very same actors, still playing their parts on the national stage. Just older and more blatant now.

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      18 days ago

      it’s pretty much inevitable which is why Kamala needed to shoot for a wave election. She needed to be able to put the map 2-3 swing states out of play to prevent any SC fuckery, so that one botched decision wouldn’t turn the election.

      Right now she’s not even winning so… it’s either she loses out right or it’s in the hands of the sc.

      That being said, early voter numbers in GA are showing 3x the turnout as 2020. In spite of Harris’s milquetoast campaign, it might be that women are gonna to be bringing this one home.

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          18 days ago

          I’m not sure what you are asking.

          Early voting started in GA 2 days ago. First round had 350k ballots, which was up from the previous record of 120k in 2020.

          Hopefully that’s a signal that there is a massively undersampled cohort being missed in the polling data, because otherwise this election is going to come down to a single swing states, if that, and will almost assuredly end up at the SC, in which case, yes, it’s over.

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            18 days ago

            Right now she’s not even winning so… it’s either she loses out right or it’s in the hands of the sc.

            Polls are the easiest thing to manipulate and I see you are big into them. We are seeing bigger than expected turnouts in a lot of the early voting. We also know women vote in higher numbers then men. So we will wait and see how it shakes out.

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              18 days ago

              Polls only seem to be fake news when the home town heroes are losing. Polling isn’t easily manipulated.

              But yes, I agree on the issue of women voters. Harris is underperforming with literally every other cohort (relative to Biden). There really is no other cavalry to come in and save this (barring a whiplash inducing pivot from Harris on Israel/ Gaza).

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                18 days ago

                Polling is very easy to manipulate. Cherry picking a region to reflect your out look. Requesting voluntary participation usually leads to hardcore people or people fucking with you. Most Americans won’t answer truthfully if you knock on their door or call them about a poll. Hell I had canvassers come to my place to see if I would listen to a Democratic pitch. I said no even though I voted Democrat.

                Take one statistics class and you will see it is a very pseudoscience process.

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                  18 days ago

                  Again, because polling doesn’t agree with what you want reality to be, its “fake news”. There is a group of people who when reality disagrees with how they wish it was, the call it “fake news”.