Trump isn’t an icon of positive masculinity. He also did very little for young men during his four years as president

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    12 days ago

    WHAT

    something with the education and upbringing must be f up, if young men are impressed by him

    is this based on facts? the last thing i saw of him was a train wreck, he can’t pull of a 2 !!! minute interview

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      12 days ago

      Some may see him as a “counterculture”…thumbing the nose at establised rules youngsters naturally want to rebel against through causing outrage and stupid jokes. It’s like any other stupid manufactured fad in that respect.

      This 20-year-old documentary about marketing to teens sort of reminds me of it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0tYRoiJvhJ4&list=PL_pPc6-qR9ZwlDyyk6o-X_gib47lpqlGP&index=15&pp=iAQB but now applied to ideas in the internet instead of products.

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        thanks for the explanation, i will watch the video link you gave me.

        but really, i watched a couple of speeches of his, and i just could not grasp what he was talking about. it was like listening to a rambling drunken friend, that you have to bring home, and you yourself are sober.

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          I realized like you that it is not the content or the actions, it is a brand that appeals to their emotions (and the grown-ups too who got conditioned to react to a type of branding over the years). It’s just like selling an Adidas.

          And it’s tragic, because he stands against everything they could ever gain…like an opioid…which reminds me of the Shady Vance quote:

          In 2016 and 2017, Vance, then best-known for penning the best-selling book “Hillbilly Elegy” said Trump was “cultural heroin” and “just another opioid” for Middle America.

          https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/15/politics/kfile-jd-vance-comments-trump/index.html

          and this olympic gold for spinelessness (a posteriori):

          https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/opioid-of-the-masses/489911/

          lol

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            yeah, i was surprised, i live in europe, you know, i dont know anything. so i was watching this conservative panel, and they were all saying that they realized he does not have the same ethics as them at all, it was comical how they tried to explain it to the MAGA people.

            thanks for links, thats a good read