• BassTurd@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    You’re correct, I meant Gaza, or improve the situation in Israel.

    It wasn’t pro Palestine protestors that got Biden to step down. It was the pressure from his declining mental state. Policy didn’t have anything to do with.

    I do stand by my comment that the majority of people are anti-genoocide. If every Jewish person in America was pro genocide, that would still be a minority of people.

    I still don’t understand how with all of those facts, you could possibly justify not voting Kamala when it seems your single issue is this particular issue, not that it’s not significant. There will be one of two outcomes in November, Dem or Rep. Unless Kamala does something exceptionally unhinged before the DNC, the candidates will be Trump or Kamala. One will 100% be worse for Gaza. Not voting, voting third party, or voting Trump are all the same thing in reality.

    All of this ignores the fact that it’s a much more complex issue than yes or no.

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      3 months ago

      It wasn’t pro Palestine protestors that got Biden to step down.

      Yes, it was. There were multiple swing states that he simply couldn’t win due to the Uncommitted vote and the party knew it. Don’t gaslight.

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        3 months ago

        100% pressure from the debate. I didn’t hear a peep from the Palestine vocalists for weeks leading up to his announcement, only his debate performance.

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          3 months ago

          So the fact that Uncommitted votes across multiple swing states added up to more than the margins he won by in those states in 2020 had no influence.

          I think you know that’s not true. His debate performance was the final straw but wouldn’t have been enough on its own. The dems were calculating (wrongly, I think) that they could ignore the anti-genocide demographic as long as they made up for it with right-wing independents. The debate happened and the combination of losing both groups of voters made it impossible to ignore reality, even for the neoliberal establishment.

          Biden being ousted was a referendum by voters on his support for the genocide as much as it was about age.

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            3 months ago

            I disagree, but you make valid points. I just don’t think that it truly played any part in the decision.