• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Rights aren’t important to you at all. As long as Democrats get to keep their stupid procedural excuse for inaction, everything else is secondary.

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      11 months ago

      And yet they are taking action where they can, like in Ohio, Kansas, etc.

      You are willing to risk everything for short term again, most of us aren’t.

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        11 months ago

        Great. Could have codified Roe, but you’re happy with Texas’ law as long as your precious Jim Crow filibuster keeps progress from ever happening on the national level.

        Your real nightmare scenario isn’t Florida’s abortion laws. It’s Washington’s minimum wage, universal vote by mail, and legal cannabis.

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          11 months ago

          Codified Roe = short term gain. The only way to codify it is to plant the seeds for its destruction. Along with the destruction of other laws you should care about.

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            11 months ago

            Codified Roe = short term gain.

            You prefer no gain at all ever. Congratulations on getting it.

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              11 months ago

              I prefer incremental gains that are not easily reversed. Like the ACA and the latest climate change legislation.

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                11 months ago

                You like the filibuster because you like your losses to be untempered by gains.

                You’re trying to coast on the ACA from 15 years ago, when the only thing you liked about it was how the filibuster prevented the public option from happening.

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                  11 months ago

                  I like the filibuster because without it the ACA wouldn’t have lasted 15 years.

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                    11 months ago

                    If Republicans were willing to simply undo anything that Democrats put into place, why haven’t they?

                    They could have ended the filibuster with a simple majority and done whatever they wanted any time they had a majority in the Senate. They won’t, and it’s not because of some non-existent worship of decorum. It’s because they know that repealing popular legislation would be so unpopular that it would sink them.

                    Democrats just don’t want to end the filibuster. It gives them a flimsy excuse to let Republicans dictate the limits of policy regardless of who has the majority.