Prosecutors in Donald J. Trump’s criminal trial say he has violated a gag order barring him from attacking witnesses and others close to the case, which centers on a hush-money payment to a porn star. Testimony is set to resume later Tuesday morning.
I disagree. The reason that we have gag orders is to protect the integrity of the process. The integrity of the process doesn’t have anything to do with Donald Trump, it has to do with literally everyone else. And we learned a long time ago that it’s not possible to have a fair trial when a loud defendant can manipulate the press, attack jurors and inflame the public. It’s time for him to shut up and spend some time in jail.
I don’t know what happens then. You seem to? I know what happens to societies who erect separate rules for emperors, kings, pharoahs and I guess presidents than for the rest of us serfs.
If the few folks who would come to Trump’s aid after witnessing the failure of the insurrection and subsequent imprisonment of so many of the participants want to storm a jail belonging to one of the most violent police forces in the U.S., well… it’ll be interesting.
The NYPD doesn’t really half-ass beating the shit out of people.
I’m not sure if you’re being honest or argumentative, but my take is that it’s both.
The folks to be concerned about aren’t really the die hard Trump supporters, but more the ones smart enough to see his popularity as a means to an end. These folks have other goals, and see Trump and his supporters as useful idiots.
I believe there is a small subset of his supporters who would do dangerous things to support Trump. But I also believe these people lack organization (or organize under the previously mentioned dangerous people - so if they get an idea that their actions are for other aims, they may bail), or are incapable (physically, capability, or motivationally) of performing the acts they are willing to do.
And I believe the vast majority of his supporters are people who, despite their rabid support of Trump, draw the line at physical actions.
Taken together - the smart ones know they can’t take on a jail, and don’t want to risk exposure for what is on the cusp of becoming a fad.
The violent ones might try something, but without clear leadership and like, a plan, they’ll just do some stupid protest. Maybe some loudmouth will shove a cop - that’s the ‘interesting’ scenario I’m referring to.
And the rest will watch it play out on a Sinclair-owned TV station.
I disagree. The reason that we have gag orders is to protect the integrity of the process. The integrity of the process doesn’t have anything to do with Donald Trump, it has to do with literally everyone else. And we learned a long time ago that it’s not possible to have a fair trial when a loud defendant can manipulate the press, attack jurors and inflame the public. It’s time for him to shut up and spend some time in jail.
So what happens then? Do you think Trump supporters are just going to allow that to happen?
I understand why you say what you’re saying, you need to think about the people you’re actually dealing with.
I don’t know what happens then. You seem to? I know what happens to societies who erect separate rules for emperors, kings, pharoahs and I guess presidents than for the rest of us serfs.
If the few folks who would come to Trump’s aid after witnessing the failure of the insurrection and subsequent imprisonment of so many of the participants want to storm a jail belonging to one of the most violent police forces in the U.S., well… it’ll be interesting.
The NYPD doesn’t really half-ass beating the shit out of people.
Crazy, one one hand they’re a burgeoning nazi force and on the other they’re bumbling idiots behind their great orange god.
Which is it? Are they a credible threat or not?
I’m not sure if you’re being honest or argumentative, but my take is that it’s both.
The folks to be concerned about aren’t really the die hard Trump supporters, but more the ones smart enough to see his popularity as a means to an end. These folks have other goals, and see Trump and his supporters as useful idiots.
I believe there is a small subset of his supporters who would do dangerous things to support Trump. But I also believe these people lack organization (or organize under the previously mentioned dangerous people - so if they get an idea that their actions are for other aims, they may bail), or are incapable (physically, capability, or motivationally) of performing the acts they are willing to do.
And I believe the vast majority of his supporters are people who, despite their rabid support of Trump, draw the line at physical actions.
Taken together - the smart ones know they can’t take on a jail, and don’t want to risk exposure for what is on the cusp of becoming a fad.
The violent ones might try something, but without clear leadership and like, a plan, they’ll just do some stupid protest. Maybe some loudmouth will shove a cop - that’s the ‘interesting’ scenario I’m referring to.
And the rest will watch it play out on a Sinclair-owned TV station.
Lol what are they going to do? Whine on truth social?