IDF says it ‘completely rejects’ charge that its soldiers deliberately fired on any of the thousands of civilians killed in Israeli offensive

Israeli and foreign human rights groups have documented a long history of snipers firing on unarmed Palestinians, including children, in Gaza and the West Bank.

Palestinians in Gaza also report a terrifying new development in the latest Gaza war – armed drones able to hover over streets and pick off individuals. Called quadcopters, some of these drones are used as remote-control snipers that Palestinians say have been used to shoot civilians.

  • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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    8 months ago

    Fully agree.

    But the people in that land WILL have to co-exist, no matter what shape their nations take. To minimize death, that is not optional.

    You can’t just defang a government and expect that to be the end of it.

    • underisk@lemmy.mlEnglish
      21·
      8 months ago

      You don’t understand. There will be no government left. Either the international community steps in because it finally realizes its moral obligation to stop a genocide, in which case Israel’s government is gone; either tried in the Hague or dead, and the whole region is collapsed into newly-formed single state staffed by UN stooges. Or things continue as they are and we watch a million people get starve under the boot of fascist colonial expansionism, their leadership having fled or been killed. Then we get to watch it all over again when Israel decides it wants the West Bank, too.

      • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        11·
        8 months ago

        …

        How exactly does any of that semantic nitpicking change the fact that as long as the people remain, the cultural clash that led to all this, will too?

        Unless you are suggesting that to stop a genocide, we need another one?

        • underisk@lemmy.mlEnglish
          21·
          8 months ago

          You’ve spent this entire discussion lamenting about how depraved the leadership of these groups are, how they’re the ones driving the conflict. Now you’re going to swap to saying that it’s cultural? Make up your mind.

          • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            11·
            8 months ago

            Now you’re grasping straws.

            Unless you are suggesting that cultural consciousness and what kind of people get into leadership positions are entirely unrelated, which they aren’t, you’ve got nothing.