• NineMileTower@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I don’t live far from Dearborn at all. I don’t think the primaries are a good measure, because people were purposely voting against Biden, knowing that it wouldn’t matter. I’m hoping that they would never vote for Trump in lieu of Biden because of his support for Israel because obviously it would be way worse if Trump won.

    That being said, there are more Arab Americans in Dearborn and Hamtramck than anywhere else in the country. I can’t imagine it actually affecting the election negatively for Biden, except for a small amount in Wayne county.

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      8 months ago

      I don’t they’ll vote for Trump either, it’s more likely that they’ll vote for an independent or third-party candidate or just stay at home.

      I could absolutely be wrong about seeing the primary as an indicator for what could happen in the federal election, but Biden’s massive drop in support in polling from Arab Americans and young people has me really concerned, even if Trump isn’t picking up that lost support for himself.

      Biden and Trump are far from strong candidates. While she performed like crap with Republican primary voters, polling showed that in a general election Nikki Haley would have destroyed Biden in an election. In a similar sense, polls showed Trump losing the general election if facing “a generic Democrat” that wasn’t Biden.

      Overall, I don’t want Biden running, hell I’d have any Democrat take his place. I don’t like Kamala, but when compared to Biden, I feel she would have a better chance at beating Trump than he does. However, if Biden’s not going to pass the torch to a better-performing Democrat, he can’t take these risks losing crucial voters like this in my mind.

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        8 months ago

        I don’t they’ll vote for Trump either, it’s more likely that they’ll vote for an independent or third-party candidate or just stay at home.

        I doubt they would vote for Trump either but not voting would have the same impact on the Palestinians as voting for Trump. I hope that people considering sitting it out think about what trumps finish the job comments would actually mean. It’s hard to see the difference right now but I can’t see any future at all with trump winning that is not full on ethnic cleansing of the region rather than the slow walking genocide that’s happening now.

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        8 months ago

        I think that you are underestimating, new voters and overestimating the loud Trumpers. I do think if the Democrats don’t vote, then Trump will win like before. However, I do think that this election is going to be supercharged before November activating all progressive voters to vote a non-Trump vote.

        I do agree though Biden is not the best candidate and I hope that in 2028 that Gretchen Whitmer can run for president because I would vote for her all day.

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          8 months ago

          I can say agree to disagree here, but really I guess we’ll have to see what happens between now and November. Honestly it’s a bit of a relief to have more good-faith discussion here, so can say I definitely appreciate that.