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    9 months ago

    The slogan isn’t “get shot and die, because you’re too tough to shoot an armed person first” either.

    Just imagine yourself in this situation: You’re a cop. You’re in front of a house that someone, reportedly, broke into. You bang on the door and identify yourself. Several seconds later, a person with gun walks out, not saying a word.

    Even if you take a second to access the situation: there’s a person, brandishing a weapon (which, in most cases, is a crime) walking out of a house that has been broken into. How does this come off as a safe or normal situation, exactly?

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      Several seconds later, a person with gun walks out, not saying a word.

      That did not happen.

      brandishing a weapon

      Also did not happen. Holding a weapon is not brandishing it.

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        That did not happen.

        There’s a video. You can watch it.

        Also did not happen. Holding a weapon is not brandishing it.

        The definition of “brandishing” in holding or display a weapon in an intimidating or threatening manner. Substitute the cops with a pizza delivery person, for example, and I bet they’d feel pretty darn intimidated and/or threatened in this exact situation.

        When you greet someone at your door, you keep your gun in your holster, just like you keep your dick in your pants. That’s called common sense. If you don’t have, you’ve only got yourself to blame.

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          I did watch it. She neither walked out nor did she hold the gun in a threatening manner. Those are simply untrue. She was inside. You can see she was inside. Even the article says she was walking to the door.

          Pouncy’s girlfriend told reporters Friday that she and Pouncy heard banging on the door and that Pouncy walked to the door with gun.

          But please do show her outside, brandishing the gun. A timestamp on the video at the top of the article will be fine.

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            The cops are several yards to the right of the door. Last time I’ve checked, the cops didn’t posses the ability to see through walls or behind corners.

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              Did you forget that you claimed that you could see on the video that she was outside her home and brandishing a weapon?

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                “Pouncy’s girlfriend told reporters Friday that she and Pouncy heard banging on the door and that Pouncy walked to the door with gun.”

                It’s not on the video, but it’s confirmed that it has happened. Not everything has to be in one place.

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                  Do you understand the difference between “walked to the door” and “walked out the door?”

                  You also claimed she was brandishing and not saying a word when she went outside.

                  So no, the video didn’t confirm any of what you said.

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                    Okay, fine. At the door. In direct line of sight. With a gun in hand. Because that changes everything.
                    This conversation isn’t going anywhere. Look, if you think that walking up to cops with a gun in hand is good idea, more power to you. Have fun figuring out that actions have consequences.