• Joncash2@lemmy.ml
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      While I agree that many of them are thinking that way, the concept totally baffles me. If you’re a racist, why would you not support abortion for minorities? It’s the strangest thing to me. So the real problem here is people don’t understand how statistics work.

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        The abortion issue in particular doesn’t center around racists, it centers around evangelicals. Zealots believe that an abortion is Against God and really, truly, honestly believe they are saving your immortal soul and that of your baby by forcing you to carry to term. People like that can’t be reasoned with because they honestly believe they are acting in the best interests of folks that require saving. “This is for your own good” kind of attitude.

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          Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem.

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        There are plenty of racists that are happy to let abortion be a thing. I’ve heard (and lost count of how many times) repeatedly about planned parenthood being started by a racist, etc. etc. The republicans aren’t a complete monomind, they just get along really well at the ‘we hate others’ party that their leaders throw.

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    Don’t underestimate him.

    He beat an elderly, uninspiring, career politician against all odds once and he’ll do it again. People have short memories, and won’t remember the worst of his tenure

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      Already seen it. I don’t love Biden, but he’s done “okayish” at most things. Every time the economy comes up, people start missing Trump despite the fact he was the one that destroyed it

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        Even worse are the people saying they won’t vote for Biden in 2024 because they don’t agree with him 100% on certain issues when Trump would be even worse on those issues.

        I understand not liking a politician completely. Hillary wasn’t my first pick in 2016 and Biden wasn’t my first pick in 2020. However, when it became clear that they were the nominee, I backed them over Trump. I’m sure some of these people will back Biden if/when he’s the nominee, but a lot of them are declaring that they will sit out the elections if Biden is the nominee because they want things done differently. Meanwhile, if Trump is elected - say, because some left wing voters stay home - these issues will be treated a whole lot worse!

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          Why is it always progressives who have to hold their nose and “vote blue no matter who”? Centrist Democrats have been driving the car for decades. If you don’t let me pick even one stop in 30 years then eventually I’m going to jump out of the car and you’ll have to extort gas money from someone else when I do. What you keep asking us to do isn’t compromise, it’s to stay in an abusive relationship where you get to make all the rules and we deal with it in silence. That only works for so long.

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            Funny how Biden turned out to be a lot less centrist than we were expecting. The pendulum is swinging left, and if we don’t keep pushing in the right direction the progress will stop. Just because we’re not getting everything we want right now doesn’t mean we’re not in the process of getting there. So stop bitching about how you don’t have the perfect candidate right now. Vote in the primaries for the most progressive candidates you can find, and then in the general election vote for the best candidate, even if it’s not your preferred choice.

            Adulthood is about dealing with the world as it is, not the world we insist we should have. We have to be the adults in the room when no one else is willing.

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      Let me fix that for you:

      Due to the corruption of the Electoral College and even though he lost the popular vote, Trump beat an elderly, uninspiring, career politician.

      ETA: Enough with the “well golly gee dontcha know that is how it works in the US” as if that justifies it. Let’s accept it for what it was: a way for slave owners to have greater influence than their state’s population otherwise allowed.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Despite their very public pressure campaign for that abortion ban, the former president insists that they will all fall in line and back him soon enough — with or without specific policy promises — in large part because they have nowhere else to turn.

    Highlighting the absurdity of the idea, Dennis points to the fact that Trump is, at this very moment, running campaign ads in Iowa taking credit for the destruction of Roe v. Wade.

    For instance, during the 2016 campaign, Trump began trying to brand himself as a different type of Republican who would protect widely popular entitlement programs, veering away from the conservative dogma of demanding spending cuts.

    Across the country, Republicans dramatically underperformed in both the 2022 and the 2023 elections; all seven times abortion has been directly on the ballot since Dobbs, majorities of voters — even in conservative states like Kansas and Kentucky — have either voted against restrictions or in favor of expanded protections.

    In recent months, Trump has argued to confidants and key allies that “even Republican” voters generally don’t want a national ban, based on the polling he’s been shown, the two sources say.

    Trump’s strategy appears to be to promise to remain pro-life if reelected, but to avoid endorsing policies like a national ban in 2024 — and hoping just enough voters don’t notice the cynical triangulation.


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    Trump could run as being ‘The Penguin’ and it wouldn’t matter in the slightest. His voters treat him like a fucking mad libs where they just get to fill in the blanks.

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    All of his bragging about destroying RvW is going to make great political ads.

    Democrats have been beating the polls at the ballot box by 9+ points since Roe v. Wade was overturned.

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      Is this going to be his “Beto is going to take your guns away” millstone? I certainly hope so.