About inevitable war - I heard some mentions of Texas’ conditions of entering the union being different, since it, eh, became part of the US at a different point of history. And thus that in case of Texas specifically secession would still be their right.
Have you heard of such a thing?
Anyway would be awfully stupid to see a war over this.
It would make more sense for Texas to be like Christiania in Copenhagen for some time in case of such a weird event - no recognition, but also no war and no borders.
I mean, some Texans might think so. Maybe even Texan politicians. However, Texas tried it already. It was one of the slave states that seceded and got its ass kicked in the civil war. Generally, that’s the legal precedent that people refer to when they argue whether or not a state has the right to secede. The answer is war/no. That doesn’t mean it would have to result in that in the future, but I think the only way they could get it to work without violence would be by starting some devolution movement and getting the US constitution amended to allow Texas in particular to secede and that would require a constitutional convention and the consent of the majority of the other states. Otherwise, they’d have to win a war against the US.
However, Texas tried it already. It was one of the slave states that seceded and got its ass kicked in the civil war.
I’m not that ignorant of history to need to be informed about this …
but I think the only way they could get it to work without violence would be by starting some devolution movement and getting the US constitution amended to allow Texas in particular to secede and that would require a constitutional convention and the consent of the majority of the other states
I personally just don’t like centralism and don’t see secession as bad in theory. That, of course, means that not only a state should be able to secede from the union, but also any part of the state from it, etc.
Anyway, this is all not important. Healthy societies do well with any model (I’d say for a healthy society with any law there’d be no war in such an event). Unhealthy ones do bad with any model (even if there’d be laws designed to prevent war). Models affect their development and long-term “health”, though.
This is a common urban myth, but is untrue. There is no special part of the Texas state constitution that makes any mention of the ability to leave the USA. Nor is there anything in the USA constitution which would allow for this. It most likely comes from a clause in the document annexing Texas to the United States which allows for the state to break into multiple states. However this probably doesn’t bypass the normal process of granting statehood. So if for all practical reasons not a thing.
About inevitable war - I heard some mentions of Texas’ conditions of entering the union being different, since it, eh, became part of the US at a different point of history. And thus that in case of Texas specifically secession would still be their right.
Have you heard of such a thing?
Anyway would be awfully stupid to see a war over this.
It would make more sense for Texas to be like Christiania in Copenhagen for some time in case of such a weird event - no recognition, but also no war and no borders.
I mean, some Texans might think so. Maybe even Texan politicians. However, Texas tried it already. It was one of the slave states that seceded and got its ass kicked in the civil war. Generally, that’s the legal precedent that people refer to when they argue whether or not a state has the right to secede. The answer is war/no. That doesn’t mean it would have to result in that in the future, but I think the only way they could get it to work without violence would be by starting some devolution movement and getting the US constitution amended to allow Texas in particular to secede and that would require a constitutional convention and the consent of the majority of the other states. Otherwise, they’d have to win a war against the US.
I’m not that ignorant of history to need to be informed about this …
I personally just don’t like centralism and don’t see secession as bad in theory. That, of course, means that not only a state should be able to secede from the union, but also any part of the state from it, etc.
Anyway, this is all not important. Healthy societies do well with any model (I’d say for a healthy society with any law there’d be no war in such an event). Unhealthy ones do bad with any model (even if there’d be laws designed to prevent war). Models affect their development and long-term “health”, though.
Idiots in Texas believe this. The well informed in Texas know this to be false AF.
This is a common urban myth, but is untrue. There is no special part of the Texas state constitution that makes any mention of the ability to leave the USA. Nor is there anything in the USA constitution which would allow for this. It most likely comes from a clause in the document annexing Texas to the United States which allows for the state to break into multiple states. However this probably doesn’t bypass the normal process of granting statehood. So if for all practical reasons not a thing.