• throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    My personal moral code is that we should only use communication to try to stop suicide, I think it’s unethical to physically stop them.

    I would only get them out of the situation once they tell me they changed their mind.

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      2 days ago

      Yeah this is the same thing I’ve established. Just be like “hey I won’t physically stop you, but I suggest you reconsider”

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        2 days ago

        No one asked to be here.

        You personally have no idea the depth of suffering another person might be experiencing and no one owes you anything at all.

        Your ignorant judgment is unneeded, and unhelpful. It’s not coming from a place of empathy or understanding.

        You have absolutely no right to physically stop a stranger from suicide just because you think your world views trump theirs.

        For that matter you have no right to physically force anyone to do anything that isn’t harming a 3rd party.

        You see yourself as a hero but your attitude is truly selfish and disgusting.

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          1 day ago

          No one asked to be here, yet everyone is afraid to die.

          Every single person on that bridge there was helping this person. You have no idea what happened next, that lost soul may have just been taken in by their new found family - and you’re advocating for that person to just die instead because they feel like it in that moment. Despite the overwhelming amount of suicide survivors reporting regret for their actions.

          Yes, there are circumstances where suicide is the correct option. Terminal illness or chronic pain come to mind. Outside of that, however, to advocate for anything but life first is sick. Your stance should be to help people withstand and recover from their trauma, not usher them into oblivion.

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            8 hours ago

            That person may have been hospitalized, hit with a bill for 35,000 after the stay, gotten out in greater financial stress with pills that work only slightly better than a placebo, waited four weeks, and tried again.

            But at least the picture makes everyone feel better, right?

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              3 hours ago

              ‘Let me just whip up a strawman to support my advocacy for death.’

              Again, pot and kettle - there are many ways to kill yourself, if you don’t want to be saved; avoid an audience.

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            1 day ago

            you’re advocating for that person to just die instead because they feel like it in that moment.

            I’m advocating for human autonomy and the right to chose to end your own suffering. Anything else you are putting on this is based on your own ideas and bias on the subject.

            You seem to be advocating for prolonging other people’s suffering despite their own express desire to end it.

            You do not understand the experience other people are having here and claiming you know better than other people is selfish at best.

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              You do not understand the experience other people are having here and claiming you know better than other people is selfish at best.

              Pot and kettle, only I’m not advocating for someone to die.

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                8 hours ago

                That person could have ALS. We don’t know why they were there. But the religitards say people MUST suffer until the end, pain be damned, because of their myths.