Wow, so surprising they would pick one of the most hotly contested senate races in the country with a vulnerable incumbent Democrat. Total coincidence I’m sure, and not at all an effort to help the Republican.
The green party cares about the environment man.
It’s just that it’s the political environment. Fucking trash.
Well that’s YOUR opinion. Which you totally have a right to. As I have a right to my opinion, which differs from yours.
Funny how your opinion only comes around every 4 years and then Disappears back to russia
Funny how your opinion only comes around every 4 years and then Disappears back to russia
I’m not sure what you mean. I vote in local elections too, so not just every 4 years.
And I have been voting for longer than you have been alive.
And Greens are in other elections besides presidential:
Californians have elected 55 of the 226 office-holding Greens nationwide. Other states with high numbers of Green elected officials include Pennsylvania (31), Wisconsin (23), Massachusetts (18) and Maine (17). Maine has the highest per capita number of Green elected officials in the country and the largest Green registration percentage with more than 29,273 Greens comprising 2.95% of the electorate as of November 2006.[68] Madison, Wisconsin is the city with the most Green elected officials (8), followed by Portland, Maine (7).
Also:
https://montanafreepress.org/2024/08/21/green-party-candidate-files-to-join-u-s-senate-race/
And I have been voting for longer than you have been alive.
Wish I was wrong. I voted for first time in 1988. You?
Wish I was wrong. I voted for first time in 1988.
If that’s true, it just makes your advocacy seem even more politically ignorant.
It’s not my problem if you don’t believe my age—I know when I started voting, and I’m confident in my choices.
What possible reason would I have to admit that I am in my mid-50’s?! Dude, I’d trade what I have for your age any day of the freakin’ week, brother.
But anyway, voting with my values doesn’t make me politically ignorant; it makes me true to what I believe in. And there is no reason to get personal just because you don’t agree with my opinions. I respect and support your right to have your own opinions, please respect mine.
There’s a bit of a history of the Republicans in Montana funding the Green Party to serve as spoilers.
The way first-past-the-post elections work makes this pretty much inevitable.
Let’s look at 3 scenarios:
Scenario 1:
- Tester (D) 1001 votes
- Sheehey (R) 1000 votes
- Green Party: 0 votes
Tester wins
Scenario 2:
- Tester (D) 1000 votes
- Sheehey (R) 1000 votes
- Green Party: 1 vote
Tie between Tester and Sheehey, forcing a special election (Montana rules; other states use games of chance)
Scenario 3:
- Tester (D) 999 votes
- Sheehey (R) 1000 votes
- Green Party: 2 votes
Sheehey wins
This means that voting for a minor third party instead of the Democrat actively harms the ability to elect somebody who is better-aligned with your views.
Vote your heart in the primary. Vote strategically in the general.
Check out OP’s bio if you want to understand what they are doing here.
None of that matters to me. I’m still voting green this election.
Exactly what a Republican would say.
Exactly what a Republican would say.
I don’t really know much about that.
For me personally, if I were Republican, I’d say so. And probably vote Trump. But I’m not either of those things.
So were you implying that I personally am a Republican, or just that some republicans may vote Green Party?
You do realize that the majority of my postings are for socialism causes, right? https://lemmy.world/c/socialist
Looks like a Republican engaged in cosplay
Nah, you know if someone wants to be a Republican, they can just be Republican, right? No need to cosplay.
There’s a lot of stuff exactly like what you do designed to trick people into doing things that benefit Republicans
There’s a lot of stuff exactly like what you do designed to trick people into doing things that benefit Republicans
I have every right to share news and opinions about third parties, just as you have the right to share your views.
Disagreeing with my posts doesn’t mean I’m part of some grand conspiracy; it simply means we have different perspectives.
In a democracy, diverse viewpoints are essential to healthy debate, not something to be feared or dismissed.
You were shown a simple demonstration of the Spoiler Effect, which may cause Republicans to win the race if a third party manages to draw votes away from Democrats.
You’re still endorsing voting third party, saying you don’t care.
You’re endorsing helping Republicans.
What the other poster is implying isn’t that Republicans may vote Green. On the contrary, it’s that Democrats may vote Green and split their vote, while Republicans will stand united.
At the end of the day, when the votes are counted, your ideology doesn’t matter. Why you voted the way you did doesn’t matter. What matters is who wins the election, and if you’re consciously proposing an election strategy that may aid the Republicans, you’re contributing to their chances of victory.
And if you’re helping Republicans, don’t be surprised if people call you a Republican.
Blaming third-party voters for a potential Republican victory is totally misguided. Lemmy has been crying about this in every post that is about third parties.
If Democrats are so worried about the spoiler effect, they should focus on putting forward stronger candidates who can unite their base.
Voting third-party is not an endorsement of Republicans; it’s a demand for better representation and a push for real change.
If the Dem Party fails to inspire its voters, the fault lies with their candidates. Blame them, not the people who choose to vote their conscience.
So you’d rather have a Republican victory than a mediocre Democrat?
So you’d rather have a Republican victory than a mediocre Democrat?
I’d rather vote for a candidate who truly represents my values than settle for mediocrity just to avoid a Republican win.
Accepting “mediocre” candidates only perpetuates a cycle of compromise without real progress.
If the Dem Party fails to inspire its voters, the fault lies with their candidates. Blame them, not the people who choose to vote their conscience.
That’s bullshit. The spoiler effect is a result of the relative position of candidates, not the strength of inspiration.
Total voters: 765 The winner was favorable to 56% of voters lachlan - 427 emma - 338
Total voters: 765 The winner was favorable to 44% of voters emma - 338 lachlan - 312 omalley - 115Any party or candidate can fall victim to this, no matter how strong or inspirational they are. This is simply the result of everybody voting for the candidate closest to them.
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